Impact of a Labor/Greens/Teal parliament

[basilio]

We see a new political landscape in Australia.

Moderate Liberals have peeled off the current party and hold probably 4-5 seats. Greens have taken at least 12% of the direct Labour votes and will now (probably) hold balance of power in the Senate and perhaps the House of Reps. The Liberal party is left with a right wing very conservative rump supported by One Nation, UAP, a conservative National Party and various libertarian groups. (Liberal Democrats..)

What do posters see as policy directions and priorities for the new Parliament ?

Kicking it off I can see a strong IPAC with real teeth up and running by years end. I think there will also be re calibration of CC initiatives by years end as well.

 

[SirRumpole]

This might be more relevant in a different thread, but imo if the Libs replace one bulldozer with another (Dutton) then they are heading for trouble.

Thinking women deserted them and the Libs would be better off with a 'thinking woman' as leader, like Marisse Payne for instance.

 

[Mohammed Hazabig'un]

. Greens have taken at least 12% of the direct Labour votes and will now (probably) hold balance of power in the Senate and perhaps the House of Reps.

Anyone?

Gone are the days of a future PM walking into Parliament with a lump of Coal reassuring the Market.

This'll cause wide ranging implications. How tight will the Greens be able to "turn the Screws" on Govt policy?

From a somewhat Conservative government to a Socialist one?

 

[DB008]

Biden 2.0

 

[moXJO]

It's hard to say till we see how Labor will govern.

 

[Mohammed Hazabig'un]

While the ASX200 has been struggling, our Coal Miners have been on a tear this year.

If Greens hold a strong balance of Power those Coal Miners should be in trouble as should a few others.

Watch this space YAL, WHC and NHC.

 

[Mohammed Hazabig'un]

" The (Greens) party’s seven key demands are no new coal and gas; dental and mental health into Medicare; building 1m affordable homes and better renters’ rights; free childcare; wiping student debt; lifting income support; and progress on all elements of the Uluru statement from the heart.
The cost of the policy demands is about $173bn over four years but the Greens are also advocating $182bn in new revenue and savings measures to cover the cost, including through a “super profits” tax, a billionaires tax, a crackdown on corporate tax avoidance and ending fossil fuel subsidies."

Adam Bandt outlines seven demands for Labor in Greens’ balance-of-power wishlist

Party confident of winning at least one seat in Brisbane, where it will launch its campaign on Monday night

www.theguardian.com

 

[moXJO]

" The (Greens) party’s seven key demands are no new coal and gas; dental and mental health into Medicare; building 1m affordable homes and better renters’ rights; free childcare; wiping student debt; lifting income support; and progress on all elements of the Uluru statement from the heart.
The cost of the policy demands is about $173bn over four years but the Greens are also advocating $182bn in new revenue and savings measures to cover the cost, including through a “super profits” tax, a billionaires tax, a crackdown on corporate tax avoidance and ending fossil fuel subsidies."

Adam Bandt outlines seven demands for Labor in Greens’ balance-of-power wishlist

Party confident of winning at least one seat in Brisbane, where it will launch its campaign on Monday night

www.theguardian.com

Dear God. Looks like a mess in the making.
No wonder one of their policies is "mental health".

 

[The Triangle]

Dear God. Looks like a mess in the making.
No wonder one of their policies is "mental health".

Maybe I'm reading these election results incorrectly but it's not looking like the lunatic Greens will get the balance of power they thought they would. This is a much better outcome for Albo as the narrative that the 'greens' are pulling the strings would be been the best weapon the Murdoch/Liberal media would have for the next 3 years. Labor only need to win over 3-4 independents or a few liberals each time which shouldn't be too difficult.

The greens aren't the party of the "environment" They are a California woke wannabe party. Most of their policies are left social things and in that list of 'demands' not a whole lot is there on green policies.

 

[wayneL]

Gloating lefties
Simon HoC makes a fortune.
Energy crisis
Further Decline of manufacturing and the productive economy
Recession (but that won't entirely be their fault)
More virtue signalling
Liberal infighting
More societal division
Mandarin to become compulsory
Social credit score introduced

 

[moXJO]

Maybe I'm reading these election results incorrectly but it's not looking like the lunatic Greens will get the balance of power they thought they would. This is a much better outcome for Albo as the narrative that the 'greens' are pulling the strings would be been the best weapon the Murdoch/Liberal media would have for the next 3 years. Labor only need to win over 3-4 independents or a few liberals each time which shouldn't be too difficult.

The greens aren't the party of the "environment" They are a California woke wannabe party. Most of their policies are left social things and in that list of 'demands' not a whole lot is there on green policies.

I think albo will have other choices even if it did come to that. It's in Labors interests to squeeze the greens out of the limelight completely. Governing well and not dealing with the extremes will bolster their vote at the expense of the minors.

 

[Mohammed Hazabig'un]

Ok, so OP is just stirring? I was looking for a catalyst for a Market downturn tomorrow, sadly this won't be it.

 

[MovingAverage]

Maybe I'm reading these election results incorrectly but it's not looking like the lunatic Greens will get the balance of power they thought they would.

Oh how id love to see Albo forced into negotiating with the greens. I live in hope.

 

[MovingAverage]

Gloating lefties
Simon HoC makes a fortune.
Energy crisis
Further Decline of manufacturing and the productive economy
Recession (but that won't entirely be their fault)
More virtue signalling
Liberal infighting
More societal division
Mandarin to become compulsory
Social credit score introduced

You forgot to add “broken promise after broken promise” to your list

 

[moXJO]

Ok, so OP is just stirring? I was looking for a catalyst for a Market downturn tomorrow, sadly this won't be it.

Look to Rudd's "Kevin 07" win. Well, apart from the gfc anyway.
Anything green went well from memory.

India/China still need coal and I'm not convinced Labor is willing to sacrifice the revenue. From memory the miners took ads out to attack the government the last time they went after miners.

We need a stronger indication of which direction this government is going to head. They sprouted all kinds of ideas that were kind of in conflict with each other.

However while Russia is off-line and causing chaos it would be stupidity to crimp energy supplies.

 

[basilio]

My thoughts for immediate action ( this year) are

1) Introduction of Federal ICAC legislation with teeth and resources within 6 months
Remit to cover the last 10 years and ongoing investigations. An initial resource allocation of staffing to enable multiple investigations for the first 3 years to deal with an anticipated back log of cases. This would be reduced as these cases are dealt with.

2) Immediate suspension of new gas and coal proposals
This would be coupled with substantial speeding up of renewable energy and energy storage projects as well as interconnectors and a strong legislative framework that encouraged investment in these areas and quality projects.
Would also be necessary to encourage current gas projects to stay in place/expand to meet short term needs.

These are critical elements of the Teals, Green and Labour agenda. If they aren't moved on ASAP Labour would almost certainly risk even further movement to Teals and The Greens. The actions would be seen as a political clean up act and a reset of Australia's energy future.

 

[basilio]

Which politician said this ?

What I do believe is that Australia has not been well served by the culture wars on climate change. Whether you believe in it or don’t believe in it, climate change is not a religion. It needs to be dealt with from a perspective of engineering, economics and also environmental science.

 

[Knobby22]

Look to Rudd's "Kevin 07" win. Well, apart from the gfc anyway.
Anything green went well from memory.

India/China still need coal and I'm not convinced Labor is willing to sacrifice the revenue. From memory the miners took ads out to attack the government the last time they went after miners.

We need a stronger indication of which direction this government is going to head. They sprouted all kinds of ideas that were kind of in conflict with each other.

However while Russia is off-line and causing chaos it would be stupidity to crimp energy supplies.

Labor isn't against new mining, they are pro. The greens are though so it is important that in the Senate, the Libs vote legislation through as they used to. Why give the Greens the whip hand?

 

[basilio]

A Teal perspective from Zoe Daniiel who just beat Libs Tim Wilson in Goldstein

Zoe Daniel to 'absolutely' seek more climate ambition from Labor​

She will “absolutely” seek a more ambitious climate target from Labor, she says – she wants a 60% reduction in emissions by 2030. She says she accepts Labor has a mandate, but:

I have a mandate for the position of my community, and I will go in and argue that. I also think that any reasonable person looking at the climate targets that we have, and the progress that we are already making, particularly because of actions of state governments, would think that we can afford to actually be a bit more ambitious, so I think we should try.

Updated at 01.29 BST
2h ago01.06
Here’s Daniel’s analysis of why the Coalition lost:

Because the Liberal party lost its centre. People who would normally be small-l Liberals or who are potential swinging voters like me, who sort of drift across the centre, had no-one to vote for.

The Liberal party had drifted so far to the right that people didn’t feel represented. The Labor party has had an identity crisis where it has been trying to represent the workers and the inner-city professionals, and people like me who sit in the centre and go into the polling booth and think, ‘who on earth will I vote for?’.

All of a sudden, people like me popped up in seats and said, ‘hey, here is an alternative. Here is someone who will be a reasonable voice, who can negotiate with both sides, who can solve problems, who can collaborate on these really important issues,’ and issues that I think people feel they haven’t had an actual voice on in a seat like mine, on climate, where they feel they weren’t being represented by the local member.

 

[Mohammed Hazabig'un]

My thoughts for immediate action ( this year) are

1) Introduction of Federal ICAC legislation with teeth and resources within 6 months
Remit to cover the last 10 years and ongoing investigations. An initial resource allocation of staffing to enable multiple investigations for the first 3 years to deal with an anticipated back log of cases. This would be reduced as these cases are dealt with.

2) Immediate suspension of new gas and coal proposals
This would be coupled with substantial speeding up of renewable energy and energy storage projects as well as interconnectors and a strong legislative framework that encouraged investment in these areas and quality projects.
Would also be necessary to encourage current gas projects to stay in place/expand to meet short term needs.

These are critical elements of the Teals, Green and Labour agenda. If they aren't moved on ASAP Labour would almost certainly risk even further movement to Teals and The Greens. The actions would be seen as a political clean up act and a reset of Australia's energy future.

This is basically the Teal Independents platform. But they aren't hardline Greenies are they. Not likely to cause too much mayhem?