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Imminent and severe market correction

look totaaly agree on his great hindsight calls BUT you guys missing the point of the actual post ......... the point i was trying to get across by reposting this clowns article was , people forget the actual further ramifications of these debt ridden collapsing companies ....... it dont just dissapear , anyways ....think of the article what you will and pick out all the meaningless stuff but i figured it may help the odd person intrested in where the buck stops
 
WSJ and FT on Leeming and Fred+Fannie...
Cheers
..........Kauri
 

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I posted this in 'Gold price - where is it heading' ( https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2366&page=248 ) but figure it may be relevant here.

Here's one extra reason why I think the USD will soften: the fact that the US Exchange Stabilization Fund has recently been selling Euros like mad and buying dollars - which looks like a case of trying to keep the greenback high (IMO).

Take a peek at: http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=24833658

I can't quite reconcile the exact figures quoted there myself, but the raw data is available at:

http://www.treas.gov/press/international-reserve-position.html

(The link in the article quoted is broken)

If you look at the reserve position for 15/08, you'll notice that the treasury held 9,567,000,000 Euro securities. Look back at the 6th of June and you'll see that they held 16,192,000,000. That's a difference of 6.6 billion dollars.

Something seems to be afoot.

In short, I'm not reading much that gives me confidence in the US economy.
 
Buffet was just on CNBC. Another great quote from the Oracle which was really a new version of an older quote:

I think I said one time that you only find out who's been swimming naked when the tide goes out, well we've found out that Wall Street has been kind of nudist beach.
 

I've been reading him for a while. He actually pulled back a bit in March, but his message now is consistent and I simply can't find anyone prepared to find fault in his analysis. He has mountains of data, and it all points the same way. The losses have already happened, and it's a matter of when and where the tsunami hits, not if.

Read Steve Keen (Aus), Mish, Karl Denninger, Jim Kunstler, Ilargi and you'll get an even gloomier picture. And they all quote Nourini.

The USA is on a death march. Only the timetable and final destination are still in doubt.
 
Yes as above, just the timing now. My take remains as during or soon after the forthcoming Pres., election in Novemeber.

And from Jim Sinclair's site this morning:-


 
This thread is starting to sound like hysterical back slapping on the Titanic. 'We spotted the iceberg first, we spotted the iceberg first. We are all doomed but at least we spotted the iceberg first.' Classic.

As for Gottleibsen and his nine passengers, I flew to Sydney and Brisbane last week and the plane was full. So if you follow his logic, that means you should all invest in Qantas and Virgin Blue. Call your brokers now.
 


Not so, there is time to avoid the iceberg and most of us following this thread have.

Having a fair idea of what is taking place provides opportunity and optimism.
 
There is talk among the investment community that we are on the brink of a larger wave of US dollar short-covering and USD-favourable repatriation flows. Analysts say that the real money funds in the US have piled huge amounts of investor money into Asia over the past four years and have only just begun to pare back. The heavy selling of the KRW over the past six months has forced the Bank of Korea to intervene at various levels. The KRW selling is accelerating now with the USD/KRW breaking up to 1085 this morning. Analysts and central banks in the region are concerned that this could be the start of the next phase of a larger pull out of Asian assets by US investors amid fears that the slowing growth in the OECD will have a severe impact on Asia where inflation is running too hot for anyone"s comfort.
Analysts say that the broad US dollar buying in Asia today might have been sparked by the New Zealand Trade data, but the concerns over heavy USD repatriation flows out of Asia is probably adding the most fuel to the USD rally.

Cheers
............Kauri
 
Not so, there is time to avoid the iceberg and most of us following this thread have.

Having a fair idea of what is taking place provides opportunity and optimism.

Optimism? That is the issue with interpreting the written word but I would not describe the underlying theme of this thread as being optimistic. And yes I have been following this thread for over a year and yes I did not have a margin loan or used my house as an ATM so good for me.

But it is depression this and depression that. You will have very real threat of unemployment in a depression so the fact that you did not margin into ANZ will be meaningless. But the risks have been pointed out ad naseum by now so whatever I have to say about the current 'crisis' is meaningless too.

Everyone seems to forget that the world recovered from its depression last time around. I mean it took fascism eating itself to do so but we did it. We will all be better investors due to this credit maelstrom or at the very least regulation will be in place to avoid the excesses. After all the Fannie and Freddie model, spawned from the last depression, has worked well for 80 odd years which is a pretty good policy if you ask me. Now it needs to be re-jigged for the next generaion. Big deal.

You should all be celebrating the demise of Bear Stearns and hopefully Lehmann Bros and a few pissant regional banks too as this will mean your kids will have a better future. Take some pain, redefine the model and move on. Humans are self interested after all. There will be another up in the asset cycle.

I am a lot more optimistic today compared to 12 months ago; and it means we no longer have to hear about the 'War on Terror'!! Remember that abstract media construct?
 
some more porridge for the bears

Cheers
..........Kauri
 

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Hooly dooly.

Not sure if Yu Yongding is worth listening to or not, but the bears would love him.

China goes the big squeeze

David Hirst
August 30, 2008

A high-ranking Chinese economist has put his nation's cards on the table in the global financial poker game by effectively telling the US to fix Freddie and Fannie … or else.

"A failure of US mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could be a catastrophe for the global financial system", Yu Yongding, a former adviser to China's central bank, says.

"If the US government allows Fannie and Freddie to fail and international investors are not compensated adequately, the consequences will be catastrophic," Yu said in e-mailed answers to Bloomberg. "If it is not the end of the world, it is the end of the current international financial system."
 



hold me!
 

Goodness me, you'd think they had a stake in it?

Cheers,


CanOz
 
#### me!!!!!!!!!!

In a stunning reversal of policy, Nu Liebour decides to be honest with us....

Stow away all loose luggage and assume crash positions:

 

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Darling probably had little choice to come clean with figures like these;

 
Darling probably had little choice to come clean with figures like these;

Could be a Brutus-esque political maneuver as well.

It will be McBeans on toast after that revelation. LOL
 
This is starting to be a regular event on Friday after the market closes in the US.


Is there a trend developing here?
 

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This is starting to be a regular event on Friday after the market closes in the US. Is there a trend developing here?

Of course. There are hundreds to go. It's become quite part of my Saturday entertainment, checking for failed banks.

I'm waiting for the big one. It won't be Fannie/Freddie. That warning from the Chinese was about as strong as it gets. Lehman? WaMu? Wachovia?

Like I've been saying, October is a good month for stockmarkets.
 
It won't be Fannie/Freddie. That warning from the Chinese was about as strong as it gets. Lehman? WaMu? Wachovia?

You gota be jokin, fred and fan are gone there just still tryin to keep it a secret.

China is a producer and the US were the buyer, but chin just realised the money is worth nothin cause all they do is buy candies and a good time with no down payment of hard labor. And they are also trying ti keep it a secret till they work out a way to recover or lump it somewhere else.

Davo, look around the world news in a bit more depth and get real.
 
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