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Imminent and severe market correction

Europes as sick as a dog.Even early in the piece.

Tonight's going to be interesting.
That capitulation that most wish to see---a shock bottom---looks imminent!
 

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That capitulation that most wish to see---a shock bottom---looks imminent!

I have not noted anyone wishing a servere market correction. It is a dreadful situation that is unfolding.

Is there some ill feeling against those who examine the fundamentals of markets and form the view that it is all going to get worse. On my take it will get very bad before it gets better, it is not my wish, just my view.
 
there is little to negligable sub-prime problems in Australia. Australian banks are well positioned, they are not trying to raise capital or cutting dividends. They are buy up,

This has little or nothing to do with sub-prime -- that was just a trigger.

There is a world-wide credit crunch. Everybody who has been making money out of selling debt is going to get hurt as the leverage unwinds. That means our banks and REITs too.

I sold ANZ at $26. It's $17. I'd buy it at about $12. Banks are a buy on a forward (not historical) P/E of around 8-10. They are not there yet.

This is NOT the bottom. [Repeat after me...this is NOT the bottom.]
 
Another big day coming for the Dow,Nasdaq and S&P.Futures are spiralling!!Financials to lead the way-JPMorgan beats analysts(love 'em) forecasts,Merril Lynch to report after market closes( and this will mean another boost for tomorrow's market).Nokia beat analysts' forecast as well as Coca Cola.Forget about any other figures coming out today(jobless etc).The market is hearing what it wants-positives.The Freddie,Fannie problem is passe-that was last Friday and Monday.
The Government sent a message to the shorters of the financials yesterday-get covered.They did-a great rally.
Nearly time to get fully back into the market with a deal of leverage to take advantage of the profits to come.
I think?I am not quite sure.
 

We will get 50 more of these dead cat bounces if this irrational exuberance continues.
 
I should have read the signs-"Merril to report after the bell."Of course it would mean that the market rally could not stand a poor result being reported before the bell or during trading.To counteract this bad news,Citi reports BEFORE the bell tomorrow.No betting on their outcome(beat analysts' estimates).The fillip for another rally in the financials.Perhaps,the bottom has been reached.
 
What a dog Merril's have proven to be. Could not happen to a 'nicer' organisation. What is it - another $4.6b write down with up to another $10b to go? Amazing. They are starting to sell the farm to stay afloat now- Bloomberg and their financial data arm. What bets they flog off Black Rock too. A bitter pill...

I am going to go out on a limb and say the JP Morgan result is more significant to sentiment as ML is a know CDO basket case? Citi will have the greatest impact on sentiment. Bottom is closer but the housing market will need to stabilise for this never ending bear/dead cat bounce cycle to end. What's it been now - 12 months since the intial July 07 sell down?
 
Bottom is closer but the housing market will need to stabilise for this never ending bear/dead cat bounce cycle to end. What's it been now - 12 months since the intial July 07 sell down?

I wonder. The slow down in spending, higher unemployment, oil and its impact on airlines, travel, getting to work. Is not the worst still to be reported in the coming year or two in the US and elsewhere for that matter?
 
And this from Jim Sinclair today as another cap off:-


 
XAO------ -45pts

Is it possible that we Aussies recognise a bulltrap!
 
Funny just thinking haven't heard of the old favorite "Plunge Protection Team" for awhile maybe they finally run out of funds or were at best just a myth.

Tech the SPI isnt buying it today either......yet
 
Funny just thinking haven't heard of the old favorite "Plunge Protection Team" for awhile maybe they finally run out of funds or were at best just a myth.

As old Sir Joh would say "Don't you worry about that" the Plunge Protection Team is alive and well, as in posts earlier today, timing the release of news after the market, and the suggestion they will have news for Monday before the market, and suppression of the gold and silver prices to protect the perception the US dollar is strong.
 
Doesnt matter if credit crisis is over or not ... the outlook is shocking on all fronts ... the market PE should be worse than average ... should be worse than what it is. Indefinitely.
 
Doesnt matter if credit crisis is over or not ... the outlook is shocking on all fronts ... the market PE should be worse than average ... should be worse than what it is. Indefinitely.

Absolutely. Credit crunch and consumer collapse hits everything. The worst is yet to come. Banks, builders, developers, big box retailers, malls, airlines, automotive, you name it.

Repeat after me: this is NOT the bottom.
 
http://www.minyanville.com/articles/bears-asia-contagion-google-GOOG-wfc/index/a/18096
 
http://www.bonddad.blogspot.com/
 

This guy is spot on the money. The naked short rules and selective enforcement of regulation SHO are part of a plan to boost specific share prices ahead of a capital raising. Ingenious! I wish I'd thought of that.

Won't help them though. The lift is only temporary. Soon it'll be back to business as usual -- heading for the exits.
 

Yep, anything to get over the line for the next US Fed election. To keep it simple and safe, follow the lead within the gold thread.

Prescious metals have been so repressed that when they take off following the real collapse of the USdollar, it will be parabolic.

IMVVHO of course
 

Two points davo8.

Wasn't the 'NO naked shorts rule' introduced about the time of the great depression and only lifted mid 2007 before it was selectively reintroduced again recently? It could be reasonably argued that lifting this rule exasabated the fallout from the sub-prime mortgage problem.

Secondly, I don't know what the numbers were last week... but I think it was the week before, Wall St firms had stopped borrowing from the Fed and Merchant Banks had also been cutting back in their 'emergency' borrowings.

Seems to me that a few people abused the relaxation of some of the rules and made a motza of a ballz-up for everyone... demonstarting that they cannot be trusted to do the right thing and forcing extra regulation right across the board.
 

1. It was the uptick rule that was lifted. Naked shorts are covered by regulation SHO which was not lifted but has been selectively enforced.

2. This is not a "sub-prime problem". This is a systemic problem of banks that sold debt to people who couldn't afford it and are now going down the toilet. These market manipulations are desperate measures to persuade people to buy new equity and keep the system together a bit longer.

The reality is that these institutions are worthless. The Bageholt rule says: wipe out equity, sack the managers, give the bond holders a haircut, protect the depositors, use the Fed to provide liquidity against a run. The Japanese rule says: bankers look after other bankers, the system looks after its own.

I wonder what will be the next disaster. This is NOT the bottom.
 
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