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dutchie said:
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Daniel Andrews - "What Sudanese problem?"
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Have a word with Peter Dutton. He's the Minister who lets these people in and who can deport them if he wants. But he wouldn't be sitting on his hands just to embarrass Daniel Andrews would he ?
 
Well it looks like East West link is back on the agenda, even blind Freddy knew the East West link would have to be built, yet Andrews paid $1billion to stop it.
Move forward a couple of years and they are saying it will have to be built, what a goose, is there any wonder W.A gets pizzes of when their gst money gets thrown away like that.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/d...ransport-future-document-20180109-h0fozu.html
 
dutchie said:
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Daniel Andrews - "What Sudanese problem?"
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First the Victorian police said - "What problem?"

from The Australian
"Mr Ashton yesterday called for a more co-ordinated, “cross-government” response to the city’s youth and gang crime problem, saying police could not solve the issue alone.

“We’re locking them up as many as we can … we’re responding more quickly than we’ve ever responded, we’re making more arrests than we’ve ever made in total, so we’re doing plenty about it, but you’re talking about bigger social issues than police (can) solve,” Mr Ashton told radio station 3AW yesterday."



Now they they are saying the problem is too big and it's not for them to solve.

What pathetic liars the Victorian government are.
 
dutchie said:
First the Victorian police said - "What problem?"

from The Australian
"Mr Ashton yesterday called for a more co-ordinated, “cross-government” response to the city’s youth and gang crime problem, saying police could not solve the issue alone.

“We’re locking them up as many as we can … we’re responding more quickly than we’ve ever responded, we’re making more arrests than we’ve ever made in total, so we’re doing plenty about it, but you’re talking about bigger social issues than police (can) solve,” Mr Ashton told radio station 3AW yesterday."



Now they they are saying the problem is too big and it's not for them to solve.

What pathetic liars the Victorian government are.
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Well the ABC are insisting there is no statistical problem, so there is nothing to solve.
 
Ashton is pretty well on the ball in this. Not the cops job to raise, educate and give them direction.
 
explod said:
Ashton is pretty well on the ball in this. Not the cops job to raise, educate and give them direction.
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That is probably true, they were let in on a ideological and political basis, by the Federal Government, why is it the police's problem to sort them out?
If they can't integrate, send them back, why place our citizens under risk?
 
Anyone see the vegans overrun the steakhouse in Melbourne the other day.
Melbourne is "ground zero" for delusional leftards lately.
 
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews is resisting calls for some of his most senior lieutenants to resign in the wake of an explosive report that found Labor had broken parliamentary rules when it used the staff allowances of 21 MPs to pay for campaigners ahead of the 2014 election.

Mr Andrews yesterday apologised after the Victorian Ombudsman ruled the party had misused $387,842 in taxpayer funds during the campaign, but he insisted that no MP should lose their job. The Coalition has demanded the Premier take ultimate responsibility for the rort, describing Attorney-General Martin Pakula’s position as “untenable” and accusing the government of “cheating” its way into office. The report of Victorian Ombudsman Deborah Glass, released yesterday, found the party had “crossed a line” in regards to a scheme that used politicians’ staff allowances to employ electoral officers who were instead engaged as campaigners.

Mr Pakula and Special Minister of State Gavin Jennings were among the 21 MPs who took part in the scheme that saw their offices cover the cost of a campaigner for two days a week. Former treasurer John Lenders was named as the architect of the scheme.

Deputy Premier James Merlino, Police Minister Lisa Neville and lower house leader Jacinta Allan were found to be beneficiaries, receiving assistance from the campaigners.

“It was a picture of a well-organised campaign by the ALP to recruit and deploy full-time field organisers in the run-up to the 2014 Victorian state election,” Ms Glass said. “While some electorate-officer work was done for some members of parliament, the arrangement to employ field organisers as electorate officers was an artifice to secure partial payment for the campaign out of parliamentary funds, and was wrong.”

The Ombudsman’s findings end a two-year investigation that endured multiple legal challenges to stop it or limit its scope, with government legal fees exceeding $1 million.

Mr Andrews confirmed that Labor had repaid $388,000 — the cost of employing 21 field officers on an average salary of $63,300 pro rata — but rejected suggestions that any member or minister should quit over the findings.

However, one high-profile scalp has already emerged, with Mr Lenders this month announcing his intention to quit as chairman of the state’s rail owner, VicTrack. While Mr Lenders cited personal reasons for his decision, Ms Glass detailed how Department of Parliamentary Services had told Mr Lenders in early 2014 that parliamentary staff working as electorate officers could not be used as field organisers, and that he never told them about the arrangement that eventuated.

“There is undoubtedly a blurred line between permissible and impermissible uses of parliamentary funds, and ... in seeking to maximise the use of resources available to the party, Mr Lenders crossed the line,” Ms Glass said.

His resignation was made public just days ahead of the report’s release.

Defending his stance, Mr Andrews stressed that Ms Glass had found the MPs who took part in the scheme thought it was a legitimate use of funds and that none of them derived any personal benefit from the use of the funds.

“The Ombudsman has made it very clear that everyone involved in this acted with the not unreasonable assumption ... in good faith, deriving no personal benefit,” he said. “I am sorry this has occurred, and really the most important thing here is to ensure that we prove that we are sincere in that apology.”

Opposition Leader Matthew Guy said Labor members needed to be held to account. “If you take money from your employer, you usually lose your job,” he said.

“Those ministers and parliamentary secretaries involved in this rort must resign.”

Former Liberal premier Jeff Kennett echoed the call, saying all MPs involved should step down or withdraw or not contest the next election. “This is fraud, naked fraud,” he said.

Federal Labor leader Bill Shorten described the report as “a serious matter” but said it was a state issue.

Questions are being asked about the broader fallout for the party during an election year, with key members of the ALP’s campaign team also named in the report, including national secretary Noah Carroll and current assistant state secretary Stephen Donnelly.

The Ombudsman was most scathing about the lengths the government went to challenge the investigation, outlining the obstacles she faced including litigation that dragged on for more than a year. Ms Glass said the financial and practical toll of litigation and a government challenge, which went to the High Court, prevented her from expanding the scope of the investigation to the lower house, even though she thought it was warranted.

The government is understood to have spent up to $1m in court costs challenging the Ombudsman’s investigation, in addition to $420,000 spent by the Legislative Council and Department of Premier and Cabinet on external legal costs. Ms Glass was initially asked by the Legislative Council to investigate reports Labor MPs had misused staff budget entitlements during the 2014 election, but the government tried to argue it was not in her jurisdiction.

Mr Pakula defended the government’s decision to challenge the Victorian Ombudsman’s investigation, saying that it needed to test an important issue. The Australian asked each MP and minister implicated in the report whether they would resign. Ms Neville said the report found that participants had acted on the assumption they were working within the rules: “The Ombudsman has found no wrongdoing on my behalf or any other MP.”

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...t/news-story/fc027ca691f4566d8a3dbd9f89bf78ac

http://www.afr.com/news/politics/vi...-into-mps-rorts-20170105-gtmme6#ixzz4XTIk6I42
 
Tink said:
Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews is resisting calls for some of his most senior lieutenants to resign in the wake of an explosive report that found Labor had broken parliamentary rules when it used the staff allowances of 21 MPs to pay for campaigners ahead of the 2014 election.

Mr Andrews yesterday apologised after the Victorian Ombudsman ruled the party had misused $387,842 in taxpayer funds during the campaign, but he insisted that no MP should lose their job. The Coalition has demanded the Premier take ultimate responsibility for the rort, describing Attorney-General Martin Pakula’s position as “untenable” and accusing the government of “cheating” its way into office. The report of Victorian Ombudsman Deborah Glass, released yesterday, found the party had “crossed a line” in regards to a scheme that used politicians’ staff allowances to employ electoral officers who were instead engaged as campaigners.

Mr Pakula and Special Minister of State Gavin Jennings were among the 21 MPs who took part in the scheme that saw their offices cover the cost of a campaigner for two days a week. Former treasurer John Lenders was named as the architect of the scheme.

Deputy Premier James Merlino, Police Minister Lisa Neville and lower house leader Jacinta Allan were found to be beneficiaries, receiving assistance from the campaigners.

“It was a picture of a well-organised campaign by the ALP to recruit and deploy full-time field organisers in the run-up to the 2014 Victorian state election,” Ms Glass said. “While some electorate-officer work was done for some members of parliament, the arrangement to employ field organisers as electorate officers was an artifice to secure partial payment for the campaign out of parliamentary funds, and was wrong.”

The Ombudsman’s findings end a two-year investigation that endured multiple legal challenges to stop it or limit its scope, with government legal fees exceeding $1 million.

Mr Andrews confirmed that Labor had repaid $388,000 — the cost of employing 21 field officers on an average salary of $63,300 pro rata — but rejected suggestions that any member or minister should quit over the findings.

However, one high-profile scalp has already emerged, with Mr Lenders this month announcing his intention to quit as chairman of the state’s rail owner, VicTrack. While Mr Lenders cited personal reasons for his decision, Ms Glass detailed how Department of Parliamentary Services had told Mr Lenders in early 2014 that parliamentary staff working as electorate officers could not be used as field organisers, and that he never told them about the arrangement that eventuated.

“There is undoubtedly a blurred line between permissible and impermissible uses of parliamentary funds, and ... in seeking to maximise the use of resources available to the party, Mr Lenders crossed the line,” Ms Glass said.

His resignation was made public just days ahead of the report’s release.

Defending his stance, Mr Andrews stressed that Ms Glass had found the MPs who took part in the scheme thought it was a legitimate use of funds and that none of them derived any personal benefit from the use of the funds.

“The Ombudsman has made it very clear that everyone involved in this acted with the not unreasonable assumption ... in good faith, deriving no personal benefit,” he said. “I am sorry this has occurred, and really the most important thing here is to ensure that we prove that we are sincere in that apology.”

Opposition Leader Matthew Guy said Labor members needed to be held to account. “If you take money from your employer, you usually lose your job,” he said.

“Those ministers and parliamentary secretaries involved in this rort must resign.”

Former Liberal premier Jeff Kennett echoed the call, saying all MPs involved should step down or withdraw or not contest the next election. “This is fraud, naked fraud,” he said.

Federal Labor leader Bill Shorten described the report as “a serious matter” but said it was a state issue.

Questions are being asked about the broader fallout for the party during an election year, with key members of the ALP’s campaign team also named in the report, including national secretary Noah Carroll and current assistant state secretary Stephen Donnelly.

The Ombudsman was most scathing about the lengths the government went to challenge the investigation, outlining the obstacles she faced including litigation that dragged on for more than a year. Ms Glass said the financial and practical toll of litigation and a government challenge, which went to the High Court, prevented her from expanding the scope of the investigation to the lower house, even though she thought it was warranted.

The government is understood to have spent up to $1m in court costs challenging the Ombudsman’s investigation, in addition to $420,000 spent by the Legislative Council and Department of Premier and Cabinet on external legal costs. Ms Glass was initially asked by the Legislative Council to investigate reports Labor MPs had misused staff budget entitlements during the 2014 election, but the government tried to argue it was not in her jurisdiction.

Mr Pakula defended the government’s decision to challenge the Victorian Ombudsman’s investigation, saying that it needed to test an important issue. The Australian asked each MP and minister implicated in the report whether they would resign. Ms Neville said the report found that participants had acted on the assumption they were working within the rules: “The Ombudsman has found no wrongdoing on my behalf or any other MP.”

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...t/news-story/fc027ca691f4566d8a3dbd9f89bf78ac

http://www.afr.com/news/politics/vi...-into-mps-rorts-20170105-gtmme6#ixzz4XTIk6I42
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Who do you turn to when the Govt are the criminals? If this is an example of his morality what else has been going on ? Plenty I think.
 
MrBurns said:
Who do you turn to when the Govt are the criminals? If this is an example of his morality what else has been going on ? Plenty I think.
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It's amazingly dishonest.
They took the Ombudsman to High Court to try to stop it coming out, all on taxpayers money of course.
They got to her anyway, the report doesn't recommend charges. using public money to affect elections, is there anything lower than that in a democracy? As the Age's reporter Noel Towell states, Labor thinks it dodged a bullet. the voters might have other ideas.
 
Looking forward to Tisme and Sir Rumpole's take on this, I guess it will be Tony Abbott's fault.:D
 
Well... it actually was Tony Abbott's fault that Labor won that election in the first place.

The feds were in meltdown over a possible GST increase to 15% at the time.
 

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