HSI Futures trading

[Trembling Hand]

WTF!!!!



Whats going on with the order book

 

[Trembling Hand]

!!

Everywhere!!

 

[Wysiwyg]

!!

Everywhere!!

On the sell side?

 

[Trembling Hand]

On the sell side?

Sell side, buy side, upside down side inside out side.

everywhere - very unwelcome development!!

 

[ThingyMajiggy]

Sell side, buy side, upside down side inside out side.

everywhere - very unwelcome development!!

So, whats the problem in English? bots...with cold knackers?

 

[nunthewiser]

So, whats the problem in English? bots...with cold knackers?

Props controlling the action to where they actually wanna let it go or snap it up ... creating to big a hurdle for joe bloggs to sneak in and out on occasion

 

[nunthewiser]

i could be wrong

 

[ThingyMajiggy]

Props controlling the action to where they actually wanna let it go or snap it up ... creating to big a hurdle for joe bloggs to sneak in and out on occasion

Cheers for that nun

 

[Trembling Hand]

So, whats the problem in English? bots...with cold knackers?

End result is a lot of volume that goes nowhere. Have a look at the SPI now vs pre BOT control, 07-08 to now.

Reason seem to be because most of the volume is arbitrage rather than directional. Nightmare!!

 

[ThingyMajiggy]

End result is a lot of volume that goes nowhere. Have a look at the SPI now vs pre BOT control, 07-08 to now.

Reason seem to be because most of the volume is arbitrage rather than directional. Nightmare!!

Ahh I see. So does that mean its untradeable for you? Or heading that way? Does/will everything end up being like this? Or is it already?

 

[Trembling Hand]

For me it stuffed the SPI. But these come and go. Who knows the BOTs blow up just as fast as they appear it would seem. Unfortunately the SPI seems locked up forever.

Bit diff trying to lock up the HSI. This sucker is made to run. Will see what she develops into.

Unusual tight range today, about half so far.

 

[sleepy]

Hi T/H,

How often do the BOTS appear?
How long is the market usually affected before returning to normal? ... and how?
Does this occur on all Futures indices at some point or just say HSI?

And is it an issue/problem to all traders or just those whose scalp?

sleepy

 

[Naked shorts]

lol TH, I will hence forth call you the Titanic

 

[Trembling Hand]

Hi T/H,

How often do the BOTS appear?
How long is the market usually affected before returning to normal? ... and how?
Does this occur on all Futures indices at some point or just say HSI?

And is it an issue/problem to all traders or just those whose scalp?

sleepy

They are always there. Just not so noticeable. On Friday they went sick like I have never seen. I'm not sure what went on. Whether it was just two big dicks getting some serious business done or a BOT fat fingered (Thats a funny one). see the vid. It is replays at X4. Watch all the orders stuff the order book at about 20 sec mark. nutz!! then I slow it down at the end to show what it normally looks like. Obviously a big difference.



Then today there was Icebergs galore and some very funny price action. I don't really know what it was but I do know it was different. We will see how they go.

 

[skyQuake]

They are always there. Just not so noticeable. On Friday they went sick like I have never seen. I'm not sure what went on. Whether it was just two big dicks getting some serious business done or a BOT fat fingered (Thats a funny one). see the vid. It is replays at X4. Watch all the orders stuff the order book at about 20 sec mark. nutz!! then I slow it down at the end to show what it normally looks like. Obviously a big difference.



Then today there was Icebergs galore and some very funny price action. I don't really know what it was but I do know it was different. We will see how they go.

Its turning into the Nikkei

But then things went back to normal (completely nuts) so thats fineeeeee

 

[Jack.c]

Hi guys,

I was just wondering as a scalper do you have any idea of the max size you can put on per trade efficiently?

For the SPI, HSI and Nikkei?

 

[Trembling Hand]

Hi guys,

I was just wondering as a scalper do you have any idea of the max size you can put on per trade efficiently?

For the SPI, HSI and Nikkei?

That seems very similar to the question "how long is a piece of string" :

Define scalping and if/what market you now apply it to.

 

[ThingyMajiggy]

Up, up and away for the HSI, good correlation with Asia and SPI this arvo. Let 2 good trades goto waste on the SPI

It's good having the added support of Asia with the SPI, now its just down to me to stop making stupid decisions and letting the trades go

Ah well, still a good day!

 

[ThingyMajiggy]

+500 points in the last hour! Making up for all its ranging lately

 

[Trembling Hand]

+500 points in the last hour! Making up for all its ranging lately

You don't see that kinda action everyday, from nearly S3 to R3 in a bit over an hour. As well as a record morning range since 08 (At a guess, my stats are not complete on that one)

No complaints about bots or Icebergulars today.