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House prices to stagnate for 'years'

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Investors stranded by property group collapse

http://www.theage.com.au/news/busin...-group-collapse/2007/05/29/1180205202186.html

Administrators have been appointed to the Australian Capital Reserve (ACR) Group, with $330 million invested by 7,000 investors now in peril.

It is the third major collapse of a property group in recent years, following the failure of Fincorp and Westpoint, which has left thousands of investors owed millions from the failed high-risk investments.


Maybe Vizard could help out and throw a few bucks there way?
 
Well Perth has finally done it, we are now the most expensive city in Australia, and I suspect when this years Demographia Report is released later this year, we'll probably be the most expensive city's in the World for Real Estate.


http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=145&ContentID=30019
 
It's property stories galore at the moment!!!

Here's one for Sydney-siders

First home payments hit $3000 per month

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/05/29/1180205251509.html?from=top5

THE average monthly repayment needed to buy a typical first home in Sydney has hit $3000 for the first time.

This is up $442 on a year ago, and second only to Perth-based first-home buyers who shell out $3009 a month, says the Housing Industry Association's latest housing affordability report.

About half the increase is due to last year's three interest rate rises, which added almost $200 a month to repayments on a $400,000 loan.

The rest is due to rising home prices, which have forced people to take out bigger loans.

Although house prices have fallen in some Sydney suburbs, the median Sydney first-home price rose 9.6 per cent to $507,400 over the year to March, figures collected by the Commonwealth Bank for the report show. This exceeds the national first-home price of $403,800.
 
I came across the following graph on another forum, but this is probably the best graphical representation of price vs volume and the impact the loss of volume has on price I've ever seen.

Unfortunately it's in French, but the bottom axis is Volume and the Vetical Axis is Price(I think).

I'd love to see a graph like the following but for Aussie housing.



This type of graph could be useful for shares as well...
 

The X axis says Number of Apartments
The Y axis is price per square meter In Euros

In Paris
 
The X axis says Number of Apartments
The Y axis is price per square meter In Euros

In Paris

It's an interesting graph... I think that each next revolution will have a larger price hike every time... You could super impose a graph like that of the share market and offset it showing which market is favored of the other at the particular time... I think houses in Australia are rolling of the top which means Shares in Australia are still bouncing
 

I'd love to run this graph over some indvidual stocks as well...
 
I'd love to run this graph over some indvidual stocks as well...

Hmmm... I'd like that too...

If the Sharemarket offsets the housing market... Then according to this graph the bull run may be going for a few more years and will end in 2013... Interesting...
 
Hmmm... I'd like that too...

If the Sharemarket offsets the housing market... Then according to this graph the bull run may be going for a few more years and will end in 2013... Interesting...

Forget the housing cycle, what I'm looking for is volume/price cycles within a particular stock...
 
I'd say a graph like this wouldn't suit short term situations as it requires a median... What is this graph called? Spiral, a spring, a coil
 
Well, imagine that, Loan Defaults are on the rise, who would have thunk it.

 
Well, imagine that, Loan Defaults are on the rise, who would have thunk it.

And those poor mortgage insurance companies are being forced to honor claims...F%&K 'EM...I bet they thought they had a cash cow when the going was good.
 
And those poor mortgage insurance companies are being forced to honor claims...F%&K 'EM...I bet they thought they had a cash cow when the going was good.

Well according to some people on this forum, Real Estate is always a good investment, no matter how much you pay for it.

Well, the good old Mortgage Insurance companies had better get used to making some big losses, because it's only going to get worse.

Now we haven't seen much about Mortgage Insurers in the US's housing bubble bust which I find quite interesting. I'll have to try and dig up some info on the impact of the US Housing Bubble Bust on US Mortgage Insurers.
 
Suffice to say the different parts of the world do it differently.

Sweden doesn't have mortgage insurance as such. Instead, if you don't have the right amount of deposit (80-90% LVR) then you must take a "top loan". The interest rates for this portion of your mortgage can rival that of credit cards.

Imagine that?? Buying a house on your credit card! Obviously the exhorbitant interest payments go toward mitigating the bank's risk for lending at such a high LVR.
 
Sounds pretty sensible to me.

 
And those poor mortgage insurance companies are being forced to honor claims...F%&K 'EM...I bet they thought they had a cash cow when the going was good.


They did and do.

Mortgage insurance picks up the difference between what the property is sold for and what the Mortgage is left owing.

It will be a rare case where they will be left paying the gap.
Even so it will be only a small % of book value written.

Few are written against 100% lending---this was only taken by companies in cases where total asset bought the LVR to 95%.
In most cases it was/is 90% so there is a 10% buffer straight away.

They aint stupid.

Well according to some people on this forum, Real Estate is always a good investment, no matter how much you pay for it.

Good property is never to expensive.There are many good property deals out there. Idiots dont do the numbers.
If I can positively gear for a great passive income return (And I can often right now ) I'll buy. In time (This varies ) I'll also have capital gain.
In 10 yrs Ill have massive return on initial investment.(Not only from Capital gain but passive income relative to initial investment will be staggering.)

Its pretty obvious many havent done or dont understand how to make property work for you.

let me know if you want an example.
 
Sounds pretty sensible to me.


From the banks point of view, yes...and from the consumers perspective they get their place to live, so in that sense they're satisfied.

Why people don't save a 10-20% deposit would possibly be asking just one too many smart a%&e questions
 
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