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And, as yet they have never experience economic bad-times, yet...
Mr Salt says Gen Y's day of reckoning will come at the next recession, which he believes is a decade or less away.
It's interesting watching the tell tail signs.
One of the early signs in the US was the builders had such a glut of houses they were offering free cars and vacations.
Over here in Australia AUSTRALAND is cutting the price of houses and apartments in its Sydney estates by up to $100,000 during May . .
Houses on sale as mortgages bite - South-West Rural Advertiser, 23rd May 2007.
That second paragraph looks like a certain robot might be having a few doubts about the long term health of the property market.hello,
the lending standards will get even looser here in AUS, many organisations are starting to offer these discounted loans for 3yrs, the ARM style, it will get looser
yes the un-informed will get involved, yes they will get in trouble, will it bring down the housing market who knows, so far no it hasnt
note in Melb people are jumping in BIGtime and buying properties prior to auction, many in my area selling couple of weeks before auction day, great stuff for all
note one forumite has been staying away from recent discussion, has their view changed?
thankyou
robots
Make of that what you will.Half the population (52%) could survive financially for just 17 days, should they suffer an unexpected loss of income, according to research by Combined Insurance
Houses 'are priced 65 per cent too high'
by SAM FLEMING - More by this author » Last updated at 22:17pm on 24th May 2007
Annual payments on an average £150,000 mortgage are already £1,200 higher than this time last year
The housing market in Britain is up to 65 per cent overvalued and needs further interest rate rises to cool it, international economists have warned.
The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development revealed that UK property prices are among the most stretched of any major world economy.
At the same time, finance experts warned that the Bank of England could increase interest rates to 6 per cent before the end of the year.
The prospect will alarm homebuyers who are already struggling to meet their monthly mortgage payments after four hikes since last August. Annual payments on an average £150,000 mortgage are already £1,200 higher than this time last year.
The Paris-based OECD said it was worried about the valuations of homes in a range of countries following a world-wide boom.
It said a slowdown is long overdue and that a property crash cannot be ruled out.
Among the G7 club of rich nations, only Canadian properties are more over- stretched than the UK's levels.
If interest rates are not raised to slow down the economy, a major slump may do the same job - but with far worse consequences.
The OECD's report said: "Some slackening in the pace of of housing investment is likely in many OECD countries, and that may contribute to a cooling down of some fast-growing economies.
"There is always a risk, nonetheless, that it takes the form of a pronounced slump with, possibly, substantial knock-on effects to activity in the rest of the economy."
The research in the OECD's biannual Economic Outlook compared the price of the average house with annual rental incomes.
The measure is widely used by experts because if houses do not generate enough rent, then landlords will be willing to pay less for property, pulling down prices.
This indicator in Britain is now 65 per cent above its historic average since 1970.
An alternative-measure compares house prices with average annual incomes.
This shows that UK prices are 45 per cent higher than their long-term average, the OECD reported.
Ed Stansfield of research organisation Capital Economics said there are good explanations for Britain's decade-long house price surge, including lower borrowing costs and a shortage of new property on the market.
His own calculations suggest that the market is at least 15 to 20 per cent overvalued.
"We are in for a very, very subdued picture in term of house-price inflation and housing market activity," he said.
Despite fears for the housing market, the outlook for the UK economy remains buoyant, according to the OECD.
It predicted that gross domestic product will increase by 2.7 per cent this year, little changed from last year's healthy 2.8 per cent.
But it urged the Bank of England to be "vigilant" following a recent surge in inflation.
The OECD also criticised Chancellor Gordon Brown for failing to do enough to rein in public spending, calling for greater restraint.
Its estimates show that the UK's deficit will be higher than any other western European country this year, as NHS budgets soar and Mr Brown struggles to control public sector pay.
The figures compare public deficits with the size of overall economies across the 30-nation OECD.
In Europe only Hungary and the Czech Republic are experiencing a more dramatic deterioration in the public finances.
A Treasury spokesman said: "As this report shows, the UK has one the fastest growing economies in the G7 this year, and is forecast to grow faster next year than any other major European economy, building on a record 58 consecutive quarters of economic growth."
A poll of 62 economists by the Reuters news agency showed that one in three believed interest rates will hit 6 per cent this year.
Bonds?what I do know is there is 2 asset classes, shares and property and its best to be involved in both
Bonds?
Gold?
Commodities?
Cash?
The research in the OECD's biannual Economic Outlook compared the price of the average house with annual rental incomes. This indicator in Britain is now 65 per cent above its historic average since 1970.
An alternative-measure compares house prices with average annual incomes. This shows that UK prices are 45 per cent higher than their long-term average, the OECD reported.
Interesting. I don't have data from the OECD Economic Outlook Issue No 81, but I do from Issue no 78. The graph is attached.
Back then when the U.K. was 60% overvalued, Australia was about 75% overvalued based on price to rent ratios. On house price to average income ratios the UK was about 45% overvalued, compared to Australia at 50%.
I wonder where Australia stands now? Does anyone have access to these figures?
I wonder where Australia stands now? Does anyone have access to these figures?
Data just in for Australia up to the December 2006 quarter. (I don't have wage data for March 2007 qtr yet)
Also note that the ABS has modified parameters of its house price index, and started a new one, so the data is the two indexes merged together. I also haven't moved the average - I don't have data prior to '86 (OECD average was from 1970).
The fall after 2003 was predominately the softening of the Sydney market. The current surge is Perth. Too bad for a two stage economy. We might need graphs for each state. .
Bonds. Just buy and either hold to maturity or sell at some future date prior to maturity.hello,
could you help me out and tell me how to INVEST (not trade) in those items you have listed
new to this
thankyou
robots
Better to go by the latest sales figures, etc. and take a non real estate agents point of view. Then you will really get the truth!
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