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House prices to stagnate for 'years'

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The point I am making is the sentiment expressed by those that see many peoples financials.

Here is another analysis

Interest on a $200,000 home loan = $233,684

compared to

Interest on a $300,000 home loan = $350,526

So if properties drop by 1/3rd (which is happening in the US as we speak) you could wind up saving a cool $116,842.

Wow, thats a pretty big saving. Who wouldn't want to save $116,000 buying a house, I feel sorry for the poor sucker who bought at the top of the boom thinking they were going to miss out on owning a home and will never be able to afford to buy a house.

Oh, and lets not forget about the banks who lent the money to the poor person to buy (what they know is) overpriced property

Me, I'll be buying in the bust with WayneL, thankyou
 

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stop reading the rubbish in the media and thinking you r an expert in monetary policy, send your resume to the RBA or the Fed's
It is accepted that central banks have painted themselves into a corner, even by the bakers themselves. There remit is to administer monetary policy according to the government of the days guideline and are not "truly" independent.

There objectives are different to the individual investor. The investors job is to invest according to the future circumstances as he.she sees them

For this reason your above comment is total rubbish and contains a logical fallacy for which I'm sure there is a neat Latin name for.

Past performance is not a guarantee of future performance.
 

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http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,23636,21446419-462,00.html
 
it is all talk, just get out and have a look for yourself before jumping down my throat

thankyou

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Yep. When driving to work and back on Saturday, there were more home opens than I can ever remember seeing in my entire life. At least two or three signs on every suburban street I drove past. It was... rather strange...

And interestingly, there were no traffic problems around these areas like usual... Quality areas as well...
 
I would tend to think that properties are more likely to stagnate for a long time rather than fall in enough value to call it a bust. (further modest falls can be expected). Logically, with the way rents are going now, if properties were to drop 20-30% in value, we would have an abundance of potential positively geared properties (thats even when 100% is borrowed). With a 40% drop, you could expect that every single house in this country would fit into this equation.

Now me personally, if this were the case, I would be buying everything I could get my hands on. Even if the value dropped further, as long as the rent was outpacing the repayments (inflation helps here), and you held long enough to own them outright, the new situation is money in pocket every week, plus 1 heck of a super at the end (assuming properties don't fall 100%....)

Given the amount of people that have purchased investment properties purely for gearing (mostly negative), I would bet anything that if properties started showing up everywhere with repayments cheaper than the rent, these people would snap them up as they are already confident with property investments. Bit like when a stock goes down, and you hold and like the company, you top up to decreae your overall average value.

Now if this happens, stock dries up, and prices move again.

Could the future of real estate prices be channeling? (hope so!!!)
 
I guess it depend on who writes the articles, the ones based on facts or the ones from the Real Estate industry...
Hehe Exactly

Did anyone watch "Difference of Opinion" tonight on house prices?

LOLOLOL
 
An excellent lecture from Michael Hudson:

http://www.michael-hudson.com/audio/061208HudsonRealEstates.mp3

*an interesting point about 3/4 the way through is how the housing indices can go up while real prices are actually going down.


Hi, I haven't managed to get 3/4 of the way through yet but will manage it sometime.

The point on capital gains tax on properties is quite interesting and being allowed to depreciate value on an asset, by any amount, when it is increasing in value, looks very dangerous in America. A very good point on the Asset value increasing whilst making a loss on the rent.

So much bearish news and opinion here: http://patrick.net/housing/crash.html

The UK hasn't crashed yet and continues to boom on and one reason is, that capital gains tax at 40% is much higher than America. People and companies are just not selling their investment properties. As more money piles into the stockmarket there will be less interest in property and at some point, as in the late 1980's, the slide will begin.
 
An excellent lecture from Michael Hudson:

http://www.michael-hudson.com/audio/061208HudsonRealEstates.mp3

*an interesting point about 3/4 the way through is how the housing indices can go up while real prices are actually going down.

Wayne...that lecture is GOLD, and timely too.

It's good to be reminded of how the system works in terms of the big picture, lest you're still riding the debt/bubble escalator when it reaches it's conclusion and lemmings you over the edge like the rest of the lower 90% he refers to.
 

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That's a fantastic lecture.

I think the more educated one can become on how the 'real' money/banking systems work, the better positioned one will be to become really wealthy in the next 10 - 20 years.

I have this nasty little feeling that Interest Rates are going to go through the roof in the next couple of years.
 
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