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House prices to stagnate for 'years'

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True, the article looks forward, the same way the bulls predict x% rises

But the trend has turned boyo. This guy has momentum on his side. There are real drops that are even recorded in the official stats (which are artificially skewed to the upside). You can find real losses via www.houseprices.co.uk which records the actual paid prices of each individual sale. (And this is free, don't get screwed for this info like in Oz)

If you can be bothered doing the research like some people, it is demonstrable that prices are falling.
 
No bull here bot, just walk down the street. Without the commodity boom, Oz would be in the same boat. Lots of specuvesters here are crashing and burning.

Fact.

One must ask themselves what will happen if commods top out.

They won't listen until they get burned. Some people here in Australia have just convinced themselves that long-term fundamentals have permanently changed, for no apparent reason. Reminds me of the tech boom, when nobody cared about "old" rules like cash flow or profitability.

People are borrowing to buy "investment" properties which yield rents too low to even payback loan interest! Really scary stuff.
 
Also, the falls have been in the last three months.
 
I wonder how much of this sort of thing goes on elsewhere?

http://realtytimes.com/rtpages/20050117_fraud.htm

 
I wonder how much of this sort of thing goes on elsewhere?

http://realtytimes.com/rtpages/20050117_fraud.htm

Looks like it.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aKTGgOD1teG4


But isn't that almost the same as the "independent valuations" associated with Listed Property Trusts. How the hell would a mug punter such as myself know it's actually a true independent valuation?
 
hello,

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23104728-661,00.html

great tip there for people in sydney

thankyou

robots

Yep Herald Sun is a big fan of the Property Industry and put in ramping articles at every opportunity. Interesting that in the same issue of the paper this morning "Fully Frank" by John Beverage states in an article headed "Prices may have hit ceailing" that property now appears on the decline.


My other take on this thread is that the moderator ought to be deleting your posts that lack substance or value to the subject. Not including the one under discussion there seems to be some above.
 

your right, I had never thought of it like that,

One other thing that would make you better off is that during a down turn the lower end of the market generally holds up better, because people that are downsizing will create more demand at the cheaper end and a massive lack of demand in the top end.

This is why most of my investments are in the lower end of the market.
 

Or you will end up with a million dollar turnover contracting business, and a fantastic property portfoilio.
 
hello,

perhaps explod they should delete the ones that ridicule myself as well,

its such an emotional issue because its a story of the have's and have-not's,

for twelve mths me and others have been passing on valuable experience, yet we are continually seen as the "enemy", amazing

thankyou

robots
 

Hate to get into this thread even though I have enjoyed the interaction you guys all lost the plot ages ago...usual suspects LOL

Here in the West I don't think brickies get out of bed for that rate the rates are much higher plus they drive around in the latest flashest biggest FWD's tax deduction no doubt


Anyway carry on....LOL


Focus
 
Hello,


Found a job for you budding brickies once you qualified ....



http://jobsearch.gov.au/SearchResults/Job.aspx?st=10&WHCode=0&rgn=4107qlog%2c4107qglc&print=0&NumMJL=0&CommJobs=0&CurPage=2&TotalRec=190&JobPos=30&JobID=169547990&SortDir=0&SortField=0&


I wonder how they even fill Qualified Brickies positions, I mean apparently if you just go grab an abn youll be on 1m p/a as opposed to the paltry 33p/h ?
 
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