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House prices to keep falling for years

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What a hoot, if they went bersek at the CBA they will be totally out of control with rage over this, or they'll have to appear so.
I can hardly wait for the news tonight.
It'll get a mention on the news tonight but I don't know that Wayne will go mental over it because they have raised fixed rates not the variable lending rate. Time will tell though.
 
From Crikey - note the link to
http://sqmresearch.com.au/
this looks interersting.


 
ants is really too nice a description for them...ants are actually hard working and smart...whereas those 5 idiots Krud, swan, tanner silliard and pong...are plain con artists, deceitful....and various more accurate words to best describe them.....

the govt will not admit its guarantee is causing the problems with the banks....so who will face off and win this bout....the banks have put it up there in their face....by raising rates.....its up to swan and tanner now to drop the guarantee.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

oh and btw....NSW govt offer of incentives to new home buyers...and still 3000 for fhb for a new house still in place......

NSW moves to kick start housing sectorJune 16, 2009 - 12:54PM
The NSW government is hoping to kick start the state's housing sector by slashing the stamp duty on newly built properties for at least six months.

Under the government's NSW Housing Construction Acceleration Plan, buyers will receive a 50 per cent stamp duty cut on newly built houses capped at $600,000 from July 1 until the end of 2009, with plans to review the measure in 2010.

In his first budget, Treasurer Eric Roozendaal said the plan would provide a $64 million boost for the housing construction industry and put $11,245 back into the pockets of home buyers.

"This measure will benefit anyone buying a new dwelling including empty nesters, families who need more room, and mum and dad investors seeking the security of bricks and mortar," Mr Roozendaal said when delivering the budget in parliament on Tuesday.

The plan will not apply to first home buyers because they already pay no stamp duty on purchases up to $500,000.

The state government will extend its $3,000 first home buyers supplement for newly-constructed homes until June 2010.


http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-...-kick-start-housing-sector-20090616-ceux.html
 
ants is really too nice a description for them...ants are actually hard working and smart...whereas those 5 idiots Krud, swan, tanner silliard and pong...are plain con artists, deceitful....and various more accurate words to best describe them.....

Dear kincella,

Please refrain from using silly names and instead address these pre-eminent pollies by their proper names in future, ergo... Kruddud, Schwonk, Tanher, Blowhard and Pwong.

Thank you.

The Thought Pullees

 

Hark!

Do I hear piercing, shrieking, gurgling noises from the general direction of CanBurYa?

Mmmm.

Muzak to mine ears....

 
Thank God this idea died a thousand deaths. Just how low will Rudd go to keep the hot air in the housing bubble?

'Ruddbank' defeated in Senate

The answer should be obvious. The Government would probably resort to printing money if necessary to keep it going I believe. I wish this were not true but it is. Of course the government would paint it as 'saving the economy' or something like that. After all if our houses are worth nothing this country has nothing left besides a few holes in the ground. Our houses are our main investment despite the fact that is really is just debt money churning around.
 
As stated by Swan in the referenced article : -

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/16/2600073.htm


No need to worry about the underlying risk / cost that "RuddBank" posed to tax payers, no need to worry about the commercial property sector being accountable for its own destiny, no need to worry about the details. It's ALL about and ONLY about (according to Swan) - jobs, jobs, jobs (spin, spin spin).
 
Ditto the situation in Qld where the govt itself predicts it will be eight years before they are likely to be out of deficit, but don't you worry about that, as Joh would have said, it's all to protect jobs, jobs, jobs.
 
weekend results are scary,. Punters with auction fever. Recession? Bust all done and time for boom again? Seriously question the current 'bubble' and those buying in it. Things are going to get very rough
 
It seems based on the latest auction clearance rates and new car sales many are not feeling or expecting this recession. So I guess either things aren't that bad or there are a lot of FHB out there.

Regarding BIS I notice they dont give the real expected rise in median prices but rather what the actual price will be. I think in Melbourne they are expecting the median to bo $507,000 in 2012. Now do they tell us what inflation rate they are expecting? Govts have thrown a lot of money at the GFC so we are now in a period where it is very difficult to predict what inflation will be in 2012. We all know at some point debt needs to be repaid and interest rates will rise but how BIS or anyone knows when that point is I am very skeptical about. Are they saying 2010 or 2014 when they predict the 2012 price?

You cannot forever get out of debt by incurring more debt.
 
Ditto the situation in Qld where the govt itself predicts it will be eight years before they are likely to be out of deficit, but don't you worry about that, as Joh would have said, it's all to protect jobs, jobs, jobs.


and "dont' you worry about that" it is about jobs jobs and more jobs. Where I live in a fairly new estate every second household relies on a building trade job as the prime wage earner.


weekend results are scary,. Punters with auction fever. Recession? Bust all done and time for boom again? Seriously question the current 'bubble' and those buying in it. Things are going to get very rough

and the scenerio is scary. We have put too many eggs in the one basket.
 


Agreed - this market is going to find a lot of buyers in the current market in negatibe equity by 2010...In my opinion
 
Some interesting reading here, apparently house prices are falling according to the Valuer-General Robert Marsh.

Pressure to slash land tax

"You would expect the median house price in metropolitan Melbourne to be down in the order of 10 to 15 per cent from the last valuation," Mr Marsh said. "All indications are that the impact on commercial and industrial (property) has been greater than residential."

Mr Marsh said he expected Melbourne house prices would have fallen from the current median of $411,500 to about $370,000, once the new valuations were finalised. Land tax bills will be issued again by March, but it will be 18 months from now before the reduced values register on notices because of a time lag.

"Those suburbs that went up the most in the boom are also those that have gone down the most," Mr Marsh said. "The decreases are significantly higher in the inner ring, meaning within 10 kilometres of the city. When it comes to the outer ring, 20 kilometres plus, around all the new estates and the urban growth boundary, you will actually see increases, stimulated by the first home buyers initiatives. Inner councils like Melbourne, Port Phillip, Stonnington, Boroondara, Glen Iris, they're the ones that are going to have to make some decisions about their rates in the dollar, based on the fact their house price market has been affected more than some of their outer suburban neighbours."
 
Agreed - this market is going to find a lot of buyers in the current market in negatibe equity by 2010...In my opinion
The latest from Blighty:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-15-Prime-mortgages-fall-negative-equity.html


 
..meanwhile, Australia continues not to experience the great housing crash that the rest of the world has, setting up for our own large one in a few years time. I think we are putting down the seeds for some rampant speculation in the next 10 years in property.. "property was the only safe investment during the crash of 07/08/09", perpetuating the myth that house prices can never fall significantly. Going to be a doozy...

Land tax bills will be issued again by March, but it will be 18 months from now before the reduced values register on notices because of a time lag.

How nice of them... up here they decided to stop valuing things for a while, to avoid nasty hits to council coffers due to falling values. It seems you only value on the "up", not on the way down.
 
I tried to buy a house in Queenstown N.Z last year. Beautiful house over looking the lake.
It had a counsil valuation of 610k but the vender wanted 500k. I offered 440k and raised it to 450k but it fell apart after that.
I just saw the new counsil valuation for Mar 09 and its now valued at 450k
160k drop!

Glad I didn't get it!

G
 
obviously this rich kid thinks differently.....and most of you have such a small time frame...one year..two years...and look how much you have saved....but forget how much rent you are paying....
hehehehehe.................................:sheep:

THE software entrepreneur Simon Clausen is Sydney's most active property investor, having bought $34 million worth since last October.

Mr Clausen, who made his debut on the recent BRW Rich List with a $180 million fortune, has snapped up nine properties since selling his business last year.

The 32-year-old recently added another Clareville beachfront to his portfolio, paying $2,789,000 for a property listed with $3.5 million hopes.

He has also bought a Balmain East property listed at $2.49 million for $1.73 million.

http://business.smh.com.au/business/tech-tycoon-bets-on-houses-20090626-cztn.html
 

hello,

just amazing, i have suffered mental illness for many years as well, life goes on man its no big deal

thankyou
professor robots
 
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