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Use polyester batts if you're at all concerned about fibreglass and health. They do the job just as well - only real disadvantage is they're more expensive (though that's not such an issue given the $1200 rebate should cover much of the cost for a typical house anyway).
why anyone would install halogen downlights is something I just don't understand.
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said Mr Garrett should not be allowed to get off scot-free.
"They seem to be thinking that four deaths don't matter, all that matters is the Minister's career," he said.
But Mr Garrett received support from an unlikely source, shadow finance minister Barnaby Joyce, who said the Minister was "not personally responsible in any way, shape or form" for the deaths.
Halogen downlights are designed to pass heat through their rear and into the roof space, thus providing a "cool beam" of light into the room below. That's what the "dichroic" you see mentioned in relation to them means - heat goes backwards, light goes forwards.Thanks Smurf1976, (Sorry I deleted my rant)
Apart from the fact I'm wary about man made fibrous insulation, another reason I don't have it in my roof is I prefer to have all wiring exposed for ease of inspection and to keep the areas around my downlights clear. I have spoken to people that have come across blackened insulation around downlights, pretty frightening stuff, luckily for them it was picked up before anything major occurred.
And where are all the people going to come from to do the checking?Now he is talking about undertaking an audit of installations. How much is that going to cost? And how much is it going to cost to fix? Where are the guidelines for undertaking the audit/checks (from a safety viewpoint), and how is the faulty installation going to be fixed?
On the radio news today there was a report that some of the batts imported from China contain formaldehyde.
Does this have a detectable odour?
It will be interesting to see how long Peter Garrett can dance to the burning of his own bed.
Btw I have had the 3.5 R batts installed and there is absolutely no difference.
House is no hotter or cooler. On the radio news today there was a report that some of the batts imported from China contain formaldehyde.
Does this have a detectable odour? Any way of knowing if such batts are what have been installed?
Seriously considering having them removed, to be frank.
Backup power. If you just want to keep the fridge and a couple of lights going during a power failure, get a cheap two-stroke petrol generator from the hardware store for $149 and use that. Go for a quality unit such as Honda etc if it's for more regular use such as a tradesman on building sites. Get a diesel if it's for regular use and weight isn't an issue since diesels use quite a bit less fuel than petrol.
Fundamentally, the issue is one of electrical safety and, to the extent there is a problem, poses an immediate risk of electrocution to anyone who enters (or in some cases simply contacts from the outside) the roof space and/or metallic roof itself. That is the risk with foil products, either sheet foil, foil batts or other materials (fibreglass, foam etc) backed with foil and arises due to the electrical conductivity of aluminium foil.And where are all the people going to come from to do the checking?
I suppose they too, in order to qualify for the job, will have to spend five minutes on the internet filling out a form and sit through a one day 'course'.
The additional cost of all these audits will add many millions to the all up cost of the scheme.
Btw I have had the 3.5 R batts installed and there is absolutely no difference.
House is no hotter or cooler. On the radio news today there was a report that some of the batts imported from China contain formaldehyde.
Does this have a detectable odour? Any way of knowing if such batts are what have been installed?
Seriously considering having them removed, to be frank.
Somewhere around 7 times normal running current although it does vary.Hi Smurf,
would you happen to know roughly the start-up current that a regular family sized fridge draw when the compressor motor starts?
how well will the small 2.4kw gen units deal with a fridge kicking in?
I have the bright yellow, look about 5 inches thick, no smell, so thanks Smurf, doesn't sound like the dodgy Chinese stuff.The quality products made locally are normally either bright pink ("Pink Batts") or bright yellow ("Bradford Gold Batts") in colour. The two products are essentially the same but are produced by rival manufacturers. There may be other local manufacturers with other batt products, but these two are certainly the most common.
Yes, that's my experience, but I suppose it would be quite unreasonable to expect the ceiling insulation to keep a house cool when all the doors and windows are open all day and night.But if you live in Queensland, don't use air-conditioning and have the windows open all day then there won't be any real benefit.
Sounds like Bradford "Gold Batts" or another manufacturer which makes "Fat Batts", both of which are coloured yellow and (to the best of my knowledge) made in Australia. They've certainly been around for years.I have the bright yellow, look about 5 inches thick, no smell, so thanks Smurf, doesn't sound like the dodgy Chinese stuff.
I was thinking exile on Wedding Cake Island but he's allready there, face down.Ole Baldy needs to go back to Midnight Oil.
He also suggested that many houses where fitted with insulation retrieved from stolen and recycled hot water heaters.
Yeah right,
That's a good one, it's cheaper to import the crap from OS.
Nothing like talkback to provide some cheap laughs.
(Personally, don't listen to the ****e.)
"Make sure your installer adheres to the voluntary Australian standards for the manufacture and installation of insulation - seek this confirmation in writing as a verbal guarantee is worthless," he said.
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