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Country Lad said:
hhmmm, you're not getting any younger you know. Might there be a relationship between the your age and the amount of exercise?
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Was just thinking the same thing...

Go get a few massages and see if it gets better first I'd reckon.
 
tech/a said:
Err no problems just symptoms
I'm running 40 k and riding 70k a week so
Hardly debilitated!

Thanks anyway for the best wishes everyone
I'm really curious as to these aching legs
And thought it worth making the symptom
Known----I'd never heard of it.
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I'm a tad younger, a smidgen shorter and abt same weight... but I'll be damned if I'd be running 40k and riding 70k a week.:eek:

I used to run a lot when younger and walk up to 14km a week up to 9 years ago, but slowed down before I wore my body out. Younger brothers played football and trained hard for longer and have worn out their legs... numerous knee and ankle reconstructions.

I hope it works out well for you tech/a.
 
All the best tech with your tests, and good on you for getting a thorough check -- I think blood tests every year or few years is a must.
I agree that it doesnt necessarily mean its heart related, but interested to know the outcome and thanks for sharing
take care
 
tech/a said:
59,105 kg,6'1

Male
Smoked on and off for 35 yrs
Always training jogging cycling and gym.
Never drank.

Noticed leg pain in calves after walking 5 or so kms
Same when jogging.
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Of course your legs ache. They weren't designed to lug around the surplus 20 kg. You have a BMI reading of 30.68 which is borderline obesity. You say you don't drink, so you must just eat too much.

I am also 185 cm and weigh 93 kg and I have a beer gut that I am not proud of. Well it's a wine gut actually, but there's no way I am giving that up.

Category BMI range – kg/m2
Very severely underweight less than 15
Severely underweight from 15.0 to 16.0
Underweight from 16.0 to 18.5
Normal (healthy weight) from 18.5 to 25
Overweight from 25 to 30 from 1.0 to 1.2
Obese Class I (Moderately obese) from 30 to 35
Obese Class II (Severely obese) from 35 to 40
Obese Class III (Very severely obese) over 40
 
I wouldn't get too hung up on these height to weight charts. Most reasonably fit people will come out overweight.

I am 6' 3" and no way should I be below 90kg as this chart suggests. And it's not like I am heavily built...just average. Having said that there are a hell of a lot of obese people around. height-weight-chart[1].gif
 
I think anyone reaching 60 should switch their exercise focus from "pushing" to "preserving". Keep the cardio and flexibility stuff but go easy on the joints and cartilage - they don't grow back.

I know a good vet but I am not sure she specialise in ducks. Also she's based in Sydney. Can you still fly there or do you need to confirm with your flock?
 
Porper said:
I wouldn't get too hung up on these height to weight charts. Most reasonably fit people will come out overweight.

I am 6' 3" and no way should I be below 90kg as this chart suggests. And it's not like I am heavily built...just average. Having said that there are a hell of a lot of obese people around.View attachment 51559
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Agree, that chart is BS.

I'm 6ft, the lowest my weight has ever been is ~78kgs and that was when I was at uni and cycling a couple of hours every day. That would still put me in mid to high. I had a resting heart rate back then <40 bpm, apparently I was still unhealthy though.:rolleyes:
 
Porper said:
I wouldn't get too hung up on these height to weight charts. Most reasonably fit people will come out overweight.

I am 6' 3" and no way should I be below 90kg as this chart suggests. And it's not like I am heavily built...just average. Having said that there are a hell of a lot of obese people around.
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No. On the BMI 90kg is just right for you.
 
Thats it---a VET!!!

Stage 1 complete.
ultrasounds Friday
Blood tests done.
likely to be thickening of arteries
due to my years of smoking.

As for amount of exercise.
Done much more when younger--was a lot lighter and Id love
to not cart around 20KG-----Losing that my doc says probably wont
happen due to muscle mass. I find exercise therapeutic. I actually
enjoy an hr of running Sand hills. Or hopping on the bike with
Son and Chatting away for 30K
I like being the odd duck out!

I have won 2 challenges with younger guy/girl at the gym--jog
10k with 30Kg (The weight difference between us) and see
how you fare!
Sure from time to time I push --- but the feeling of fitness
far outweighs to odd issue. Knees are good had them CT Scanned
12 mths ago ---just to know---Stretching is the key---still don't
do enough.

My main concern is the fact that it CAN be a sign of Heart---as its in the family
getting it all checked. What ever it is will be caught early enough to do something.

Let you know later but right now seems un related to heart. (but still checking).
 
MrBurns said:
Looks like I need to lose about 15 kilos:cry:
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I'm too short for my weight.
I need to go on a rack.
I need another 5" of height.

Seriously I had pain in the armpit and a tingle in the forearm.
Thought nothing of it till I was at the doctor for unrelated stuff.

Walking a little more often.
Reducing sugar intake a little.

Not overdoing it though!
I want to live before I die!
 
tech/a said:
59,105 kg,6'1

Male
Smoked on and off for 35 yrs
Always training jogging cycling and gym.
Never drank.

Noticed leg pain in calves after walking 5 or so kms
Same when jogging. Shortness of breath when beginning
Training which remains manageable through training ---- thought that
The remnants of smoking --- gave up 5 yrs ago.

Turns out calf leg pain is one of the most common early indicators
Of Heart disease. With. Cholesterol level life long of 3.8 hasn't changed in
10 yrs this has come as a huge wake up call!

I've decided to have every test known to man and determine what
The level of damage is firstly.
Then the program to repair, stop and or avoid future damage.
While diet is ok---no fast food,I know sugar is my no 1 enemy.
So to portion size. I need to lose 20 kg.

But it's the low cholesterol yet strong symptoms of lack of oxygen
And blood flow to leg muscles that has me baffled.

I guess all will come out in the following weeks as blood tests/stress tests and
Whatever else is served up----fills in the picture.

I thought I'd post this up as I thought I was/am as fit as a mallee bull.
Aching legs---thought everyone suffered from that!

Lost a couple of mates from Heart disease--not that keen on joining the group!
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You should get that test done that does a cross section image of your heart. They can see exactly what is going on from that.

You can pass all the other tests but still not get the heart problems diagnosed.

Good luck fortunately you have had some early warning signs others are not so lucky.
 
McLovin said:
Agree, that chart is BS.

I'm 6ft, the lowest my weight has ever been is ~78kgs and that was when I was at uni and cycling a couple of hours every day. That would still put me in mid to high. I had a resting heart rate back then <40 bpm, apparently I was still unhealthy though.:rolleyes:
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BMI is rubbish as it is just a statistical average which doesnt measure the most important thing which is body fat and more especially visceral fat.

Every footballer and gym junkie is obese according to BMI measures as they have weights of 100k plus but importantly their body fat is often only around 10percent. For older guys body fat of around 20 percent is okay.
 
Intrinsic Value said:
BMI is rubbish as it is just a statistical average which doesnt measure the most important thing which is body fat and more especially visceral fat.

Every footballer and gym junkie is obese according to BMI measures as they have weights of 100k plus but importantly their body fat is often only around 10percent. For older guys body fat of around 20 percent is okay.
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Agree.

BMI is a buy.

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Intrinsic Value said:
You should get that test done that does a cross section image of your heart. They can see exactly what is going on from that.

You can pass all the other tests but still not get the heart problems diagnosed.

Good luck fortunately you have had some early warning signs others are not so lucky.
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Heart scans are quite controversial. Here is one discussion and of course there are many more

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/stories/s126910.htm
 
Intrinsic Value said:
You should get that test done that does a cross section image of your heart. They can see exactly what is going on from that.

You can pass all the other tests but still not get the heart problems diagnosed.

Good luck fortunately you have had some early warning signs others are not so lucky.
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Tech/A describes some pains in his calf muscles.
I'm not understanding why he and apparently many others are therefore assuming he has heart disease?????
 
Julia said:
Tech/A describes some pains in his calf muscles.
I'm not understanding why he and apparently many others are therefore assuming he has heart disease?????
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I'm not a doctor ...

Peripheral Artery Disease


"The most common symptom of PAD is a painful muscle cramping in the hips, thighs or calves when walking, climbing stairs or exercising.

The pain of PAD usually goes away when you stop exercising, although this may take a few minutes. Working muscles need more blood flow (View an animation of blood flow). Resting muscles can get by with less. If there's a blood-flow blockage due to plaque buildup, the muscles won't get enough blood during exercise to meet the needs. The "crampy" pain (called "intermittent claudication"), when caused by PAD, is the muscles' way of warning the body that it isn't receiving enough blood during exercise to meet the increased demand."

Read more:
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Condi...s-and-Diagnosis-of-PAD_UCM_301306_Article.jsp
 
Peripheral Artery Disease can exist in the absence of heart disease.
Most common cause is smoking. Gangrene, especially in the presence of diabetes, can be a complication.
 
Julia said:
Tech/A describes some pains in his calf muscles.
I'm not understanding why he and apparently many others are therefore assuming he has heart disease?????
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Heart disease sounds more exciting than just being overweight. Obesity does put extra strain on all your body systems including the circulatory system and muscular and joint systems. They all have to do extra work they were not designed for, and of course they protest. If Tech/A had a BMI of 25 we wouldn't be having this discussion.
 
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