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Belli said:
"there is little or no effect of omega 3 supplements on our risk of experiencing heart disease, stroke or death."


www.cochrane.org

New Cochrane health evidence challenges belief that omega 3 supplements reduce risk of heart disease, stroke or death

New evidence published today shows there is little or no effect of omega 3 supplements on our risk of experiencing heart disease, stroke or death.
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I agree Belli. Good post.

Taking supplements have little if any effect. Most supplements just give you expensive urine or make you sick. Some will give you cancer. I am against them.

I believe taking vitamin tablets/fish oil is bad for you in almost every case except maybe Vitamin D.

It's about food. Grass fed beef not grain fed. Olives. Leafy vegetables etc.
I thought there was a meditteranean lifestyle study that showed this.

However heart disease seems often to relate to inflammation and actually diet may have only have a small influence. Virus levels for instance may be more relevant. Still if you eat trans fats...

(Despite this I don't always eat well. Western lifestyle food, e.g. a Parma and Pint are alluring.)
 
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Knobby22 said:
I agree Belli. Good post.

Taking supplements have little if any effect. Most supplements just give you expensive urine or make you sick. Some will give you cancer. I am against them.

I believe taking vitamin tablets/fish oil is bad for you in almost every case except maybe Vitamin D.

It's about food. Grass fed beef not grain fed. Olives. Leafy vegetables etc.
I thought there was a meditteranean lifestyle study that showed this.

However heart disease seems often to relate to inflammation and actually diet may have only have a small influence. Virus levels for instance may be more relevant. Still if you eat trans fats...

(Despite this I don't always eat well. Western lifestyle food, e.g. a Parma and Pint are alluring.)
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I tend to go to Chochrane whenever people I meet start pronouncing various solutions to health issues. The reason is it undertakes a meta-analysis of available research on the subject. It doesn't dismiss everything out of hand but suggests on a number of subjects there is insufficient research to be able to draw a conclusion.

He he. A group of old farts chatting over coffee about their various health ailments isn't a randomised control group. :)
 
I had seen articles disputing benefits to the cardiovascular system from omega 3 supplementation but can't remember whether it was after I posted or if I chose to go with the other still live view. I've been vegan for years but saw a video way back ascribing possible reasons for plant eaters not being particularly healthy or long lived. One was the use of omega 6 oils unbalanced by omega 3s leading to an inflammatory state. So anyway I have continued supplementing with algal oil - seems harmless at worst. Also reluctantly eating a bit of fish now. I eat handfuls of supplements every day though so if I suddenly stop posting you'll know why - it won't be Rona or the jab. Coffee and uncritical social interaction has been linked to healthspan ☕

My go to authority on nutrition speaks on the subject - benefits 3m25s

 
Seems worth looking into. Article from Medical Journal Australia.
Big study with significant heart and all cause death benefits from switching
Checked out iHerb and have only found things like Himalayan and Mediterranean salt in groceries. Only potassium chloride is in supplements section.

insightplus.mja.com.au

Every adult should consider switch to potassium-enriched salt - InSight+

The simplicity of the intervention and the joint benefits of salt sodium reduction and potassium supplementation provide for a very high likelihood of success, writes Bruce Neal
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Efficacy of alternate day versus daily dosing of rosuvastatin - PMC

Compared with other statins, rosuvastatin has a relatively long half-life, which may allow for the administration of this medication on an alternate day basis. To compare the efficacy of administering rosuvastatin on a daily basis versus on an ...
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On heart issues people do not really know what the condition of their heart is without tests that privately are quite expensive.
www.webmd.com

What You Should Know About Heart Failure

Heart failure is a serious condition, but you can lead a fulfilling life with it. Learn the symptoms, treatments, and more from this WebMD slideshow.
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Tests ECG Electrocardiogram, ECC Echocardiogram, Chest Xrays, Blood Tests, and Blood Pressure Tests.
 
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Visual Guide to Peripheral Artery Disease

This visual guide to peripheral artery disease, or PAD, gives details about this common type of heart disease, and its symptoms, causes, treatments, and prevention tips.
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PAD stands for peripheral artery disease. It’s when arteries that carry blood from your heart to distant parts of your body become narrow because of a buildup of plaque inside the vessels. This can slow down blood flow to your limbs. PAD most commonly affects your legs.

As the condition gets worse, you may feel burning or pain in your feet even at rest. The skin on your feet may feel cool, look shiny, or change colors. Your leg hair may stop growing. You may develop sores on your feet or toes that don’t heal. Men with PAD may develop erectile dysfunction (ED).
 
Time to consider? - an echocardiogram; electrocardiogram ECG combined with the more usual Blood Pressure taken; a doctor thoroughly listening to your heart, particularly for heart murmurs; and an ankle brachial pressure index (ABPI) test. Any further problems then a Gastroscopy at an Endoscopy Department of a hospital.
A chest x-ray to view if one has an enlarged heart is a must if there are problems.

All this thought is due to speaking with three doctors. After listening for some time I see they must be right - good luck guys.​
 
Substituting potassium salt for sodium salt to reduce b.p and lower heart attack risk. You can buy KCl on iHerb pretty cheap and the flavour is pretty similar.
www.sciencealert.com

Research Shows One Easy Diet Swap Can Reduce Blood Pressure And Heart Attacks

One in three Australian adults has high blood pressure (hypertension).
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The basics according to Ellsworth Wareham who was still doing cardiac surgery and mowing his lawn in his 90s. He became vegan so that'll put a lot off.
Get cholesterol below 140.
AVoid:
DAIRY
SATURATED FAT
SUGAR
SALT
SEED OILS

 
Apologies if this has been discussed, I haven't read the whole thread but I wonder how much heart disease actually has a genetic component.

Nobody in either Mrs or my family's have any sort of heart disease problems whatsoever and apart from the occasional intervention from cancer (reasons), both of our families have always enjoyed longevity. We are now in our 60s and even blood pressure is completely normal and on the low side of normal too... and on no medication at all, for anything.

The only concern on mrs' side is some history of Parkinson's and MS, fortunately no sign of that whatsoever.

Of course, non smokers and have always liked after ourselves.
 
My view, derived from reading others, genetics is not destiny.
Good genes - who wouldn't want them? But the reading off the genes, epigenetics, is up or down regulated by behaviour.
Don't rely on good genes, live a good healthspan.
 
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