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The main reason why I became a political atheist.
Howard simply refused to be put in the firing line, and made his staff scapegoats when the going got tough. He even let his most senior advisor and good friend fall on his (Howard's) sword when evidence that tested his credibility got too close for comfort.
Rudd has made several statement in the House about what he knows, and what his staffers advise. He has had his Departments search for the smoking guns that now appear in the media. Nothing has turned up. Rudd is now asking the Auditor General to "search".
In this matter Rudd is fully aware that the Senate can probe more deeply still, and that Labor does not have control of the Senate.
The most amusing aspect of this matter is that, for some reason, we are putting aside the millions of dollars of political party contributions that have in the past curried favours, and are now focusing on something that is trivial in the extreme when put into the broader context.
Grant had a right to know about the program which affected his business, and would have been well within his rights to speak to any parliamentarian about it. That MP would have had a duty of care to ensure Grant's request was acted on. Turnbull has turned a right of citizenry into a three ringed circus where he, as Ringmaster, is managing to call the shots. It is an act of great buffoonery where, as the curtain falls, he will be revealed as the Clown he is.
That's not due to be completed until end of July. By then something else will be more important.It will be interesting to see how this all works out.
He's called an inquiry into it.
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That's exactly right.The government's problems are as much about Mr Rudd and Mr Swan's categoric denials as about what they and their staff have done. This is as much about the obfuscation or the cover-up as the alleged crime - that the government asked public servants to give priority to a prime ministerial friend and political donor.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25662847-5017906,00.html
I feel the same. I'm a swinging voter, have voted for Labor both federally and state. Didn't vote for them last time, but thought Mr Rudd would be OK. I don't feel that way any more.Can you really tell I'm biasedI think it’s more a dislike for the Labor party at present then being a lib supporter.
OzCar emails an elaborate hoax: Rudd
Kevin Rudd has branded leaked emails supposedly detailing his efforts to help a car dealer friend secure a taxpayer-funded loan an "elaborate hoax".
The emails were allegedly sent on Mr Rudd's behalf to Godwin Grech, the head of the Government's $2 billion OZ Car scheme, seeking financial help for Ipswich car salesman John Grant.
They were purportedly sent from the computer of Mr Rudd's senior economic adviser Andrew Charlton to Mr Grech.
But Mr Rudd's spokesman told the Daily Telegraph no such email ever existed.
"We believe the email is fake," the spokesman was quoted by the newspaper as saying.
"The opposition must rule out any involvement in the creation or distribution of this fake email."
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/827872/newspaper-publishes-ozcar-leaked-email
06:05 AEST Sat Jun 20 2009
"The opposition must rule out any involvement in the creation or distribution of this fake email."
The affair is reminiscent of the Sunrise Dawn Service fiasco where Mr Rudd emphatically denied that his office had been involved in any attempts to reschedule the Anzac Day Dawn Service, only for emails to emerge proving he had done just that.
The Sunrise affair went to Rudd’s candour and it suggested a bit of glibness and cleverness in his replies - but in essence it remained a silly kerfuffle over a TV show. The Grant affair is in a different category as it involves the disbursement of public money, suggestions of favours for friends, and as of today’s estimates hearings, the undeniable proof that Mr Rudd has either cocked up or cooked up his line of defence in the Parliament.
"Reports today indicate that the opposition has sighted that fake email.
"I think Opposition Leader Mr Turnbull should provide full details of when they saw it and who gave it to them.
"This is absolutely essential to know because we have this smear campaign that's being mounted on the basis of a fake email.
"Mr Turnbull has a responsibility to outline how he saw it, where he saw it and who provided that to the opposition."
We all know that Rudd and his staff tell porkies.
This from The Punch.
His staff also denied he had abused the tea lady on the plane, and that he threw a hissy fit over the hairdryer.
All little lies, of course, but good training for the big lie
Well if that's the case can we still call it Utegate? (please)There's no issue with the car dealer's provision of the ute to Mr Rudd.
It was appropriately recorded on the Register.
they have had several weeks to destroy the evidence of the first email...except for the ones that Gech disclosed at the senate hearing yesterday...
just because you delete an email from your PC does not mean its vanished...and can not be found....
because rudd is such a control freak...and abuses his staff...is it 60+ have left...anyone of them would probably prefer to make a leak...
and I guess god help Gech....facing the wrath of the bad tempered pm, and the rest of the bully boys
oh gilliard...is so awkward, probably never seen a more ugly woman....and now with the unions offside....her job is not safe....she will not be a pm...
and Miss Wong wears the pants.....hehehehehe
wot a motley ugly little group holding the reins
and anyone notice...oates and mccrann now saying Costello was the best treasurer ever....thats an about face....
in fact there are quite a few about faces from the political reporters....
who have not been reporting for 2 years...just been saying what the pm tells them to say..... weisels...all of them
I dont like any of the weak libs either....
but at 51 Costello can have a break for 6 months while the libs self destruct...then take over the camp....turnbull and abbott should be gone by then...I would leave Joe Hockey somewhere he can be mentored for a future role
believe Costello is the only one to bring us out of this mess..............
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Of course we can. Such a title is just too good to give up.Well if that's the case can we still call it Utegate? (please)
Rudd and Swan are not taking a backward step and neither are reckless men. But Swan has been made to look silly. He has repeatedly told Parliament Grant received no special treatment.
The emails tabled at the inquiry yesterday, however, showed Mr Grant's request for assistance with credit was deemed important enough to keep the Treasurer, the departmental secretary Ken Henry, and the Treasurer's most senior staff apprised of developments. No other dealer referred to Treasury received such attention.
* You accuse media and board members of jumping to conclusions and no proof (except the fact it's sitting in his driveway and his mate has a massive favor loan)
* You condone corruption
* You jump to conclusions and accuse me of corruption, which is in itself hypocritical
* We both get more confused
PRIME Minister Kevin Rudd says the Australian Federal Police will investigate whether someone impersonated a public servant and made up a fake email that is at the centre of the OzCar scandal engulfing the government.
Mr Rudd said Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull had claimed to be in possession of documentary evidence that indicated his office had lobbied on behalf of Ipswich car dealer John Grant.
Mr Turnbull had now changed his tune and his integrity was at stake, he claimed.
"Today Mr Turnbull is in full retreat on this claim,'' Mr Rudd told reporters in Canberra.
"How easy it is in the business of national politics simply to throw mud at people and then having thrown the mud to run away.
"Mr Turnbull's done that today.''
Well there is no proof anything untoward has happened yet. As mentioned it's on the record. It should be simple enough from the metadata in the emails to track the origin.
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The King of spin is trying to turn it all back on Turnbull, Turnbull isn't the one who mislead Parliament and lied through his teeth ...........thats Rudds specialty.
I meet people regularly now who don't just dislike him they hate his smarmy smart **** guts and I can see their point.
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