Some dots are missing.I think what is missing here is that people are starting to grow tired of the spin being placed on what is coming out of Canberra and the mood shift is being shown here in this thread. The times they are a' changing brother.
Some dots are missing.
The spin will keep coming.
But what will Turnbull do when finally he has to come clean?
He is claiming "privilege". It's the pollies version of the 5th amendment.
Turnbull is up to his eyeballs in the Grech affair and he's handling it by closing down all attempts to be questioned about it.
His days are numbered.
It's true that Turnbull can choose not to divulge his sources.No politician will divulge his sources same as a journalist so he can legitimately hide behind that one.
BUT - someone wrote that email and it's up to the AFP to sort that one, and it wouldn't surprise me if it originated from the Labor camp to trap Turnbull.
And yes everyones sick of the spin, he's not even good at it, too obvious.
Ya gotta be kidding me rederob?? You honestly believe that this does not smack of collusion?? Information sent to his PRIVATE home fax?? Denials in parliament that he had not received information in regards to the whole torrid affair?? Mr Swan claimed he was not following the situation closely?? Which part of this are you not getting? I concede the whole matter is a dismal failure on the Libs behalf and the smoking gun has blown up in their face BUT really !! Even the hardest died in the wool Labor voter must realise at some time that MAYBE ... yes just maybe the hand was caught in the cookie jar.
It's true that Turnbull can choose not to divulge his sources.
He will realise, however, that as there may be criminality involved, he stands judicial scrutiny and a possible jail sentence. I think that would be an excellent outcome for the Opposition as Turnbull has proved himself totally unfit for the highest office in the land.
Problem solved!
The problem is it doesn't matter - at worst Swan tried to assist a mate and if that's something they think will turn an electorate they have another thing coming. If he got his mate a loan there could have been an issue but at the end of the day he got nothing so there is no issue. This whole situation is a joke and it's funny watching the desperation from the libs.
If anything there will be much more damaging information dug up against the libs in response to this childish smear campain
That would not suprise me either.BUT - someone wrote that email and it's up to the AFP to sort that one, and it wouldn't surprise me if it originated from the Labor camp to trap Turnbull.
In the scheme of things you are right Gamblor ... it doesn't matter in the big overall picture that 18 months ago we had NIL debt and we are now 200 billion in the red. Every man, woman and child is now responsible for $733 per annum for the next 20 years. Slightly off topic I know but somehow valid.
The Libs are in disarray and have barely laid a glove on the Teflon Don known as Kruddy or Rudd 747. Malcolm Turnbull is no match for Kevin07 political/party machine nouse just as Mark Latham was not the answer to the Howard juggeranut. To say that Mr. Turnbull is guilty of going off half cocked is accurate. To imply he somehow had a hand in this poor attempt at a "childish smear campaign" is indefensible at best.
My point is that when the populace of this great land of ours are fed up to the back teeth at the B/S that streams from his mouth that we will have the right to vote him and his credit card tactics clean out of office. Once again the poor 'ol Libs will have to perform their neat hatchet job and toe cut the largesse and pay off that horrendous debt we now have draped around our neck like a millstone for the rest of my working life.
Nice attempt at a balanced argument there Trainspotter, except you did not refer to the PM (Teflon Don... Kruddy or Rudd 747) by his real name yet gave that respect to the opposition leader (Malcolm Turnbull...Mr Turnbull).
Your bias would have been better camouflaged if you referred to the opposition leader as "turntable", "turncoat", "turnstile" or some other endearing nickname.
Weekend polls show Labor and Rudd "won" - both rose in popularity.At the end of the day, I think everyone lost something from this debacle.
Weekend polls show Labor and Rudd "won" - both rose in popularity.
Turnbull nosedived.
Hockey touted by Lib kingmakers as next best thing.
The debt level is a recurring theme here at the moment. Are you trying to say that if Libs had not lost the last election, Australia would not be looking down the barrell of debt in the coming years? I'd really like to see some solid forecasts on how the Libs would avoid debt and keep the economy ticking over were they still in power.It won't be long before the good citizens of Banana Republic Land will awake form their sleepy little coma and once again toddle off to the polling booths only to find themselves 200 billion dollars in debt. OUCH !
Told you so ...hes also a full card carrying member of the gay mens club !
No wonder we all feel rear ended.
In fact he looks more gay than Bruno.
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