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Has Clive Palmer gone loco?

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Same as what they did to Pauline Hanson .... DISCREDIT DISCREDIT DISCREDIT until the media frenzy causes a cave in as the cracks start to show. Throw enough mud and some of it will have to stick eventually. ;)
 
There is no suggestion about this letter that it is "alleged". In my opinion it must lead to a prima facie case against Palmer's "alleged" corruption. When the CMC hands down its logical decision, they will also deliver a slap on the wrist to Seeney and Newman for covering up the corruption for so long. Legally they are in the clear as the CMC does not place a time limit on corruption referrals

The Courier-Mail can reveal Mr Palmer detailed his extraordinary treaty terms in a three-page letter that he gave to Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney’s senior staff during failed peace talks early last year.

The letter, along with all documents related to the Government’s dealings with the now federal MP and his companies, will today be handed to Queensland’s corruption watchdog.

Mr Palmer has denied any wrongdoing.

In the three-page letter, Mr Palmer demanded the Government hand his company, Waratah Coal, exclusive rights to own and operate the rail corridor through the Galilee Basin.

In exchange, Mr Palmer promised to drop multiple actions in the Supreme Court, cease all right-to-information applications and not publicly disparage the Government over the Galilee Basin.

Waratah will “discontinue all current litigation”, the first settlement term stated.

Mr Palmer’s terms were ignored and two of the three Supreme Court cases were unsuccessful, with a third due to be heard this week.
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http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...or-rail-corridor/story-fnihsrk2-1226948789794
 
trainspotter said:
Same as what they did to Pauline Hanson .... DISCREDIT DISCREDIT DISCREDIT until the media frenzy causes a cave in as the cracks start to show. Throw enough mud and some of it will have to stick eventually. ;)
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TS, as Calliope points out, the letter of demand from Clive Palmer is fact, not some vague allegation.
You're usually very perceptive about people. I'm curious about why you seem to be a bit defensive about Mr Palmer?
 
Julia said:
The ABC reported that that suggestion came from a member of Abbott's own party, not Clive Palmer.
Do you have a link to Palmer's 'offer'?


Agree, yet he seems irrationally immovable on this. It's a trait that's concerning.
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http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...se-on-paid-parental-leave-20140609-39szx.html

Abbott seems to be crash through or crash. Not the best trait in a leader. Certainly Howard had better nouse as to when to fight and when to accept the umpire's decision.
 
Julia said:
TS, as Calliope points out, the letter of demand from Clive Palmer is fact, not some vague allegation.
You're usually very perceptive about people. I'm curious about why you seem to be a bit defensive about Mr Palmer?
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Sure Julia the letter is a "statement of demand" if you will to have exclusive rights to the Galilee Basin rail line on the proviso he drops the Supreme Court action against the Newman government. It smacks of collusion as the Newman government has had this information for over 2 years now and has only just decided to release it to the press. I wonder why? Lacking in the polling department perhaps? A poll in The Sunday Mail, yesterday showed Mr Palmer’s party would secure more than 13 per cent of the primary vote at the next state election. Mr Newman must be quaking in his boots. Also there were allegations that the Newman government did not want some critical information about the handling of the Galilee Basin coal deposits mining approvals to see the light of day. Speculation is rife about the Hancock Prospecting Coal approval to construct the Alpha Coal Project. Hmmmm ?

Personally I believe Clive Palmer is a buffoon who has an extraordinary talent of throwing red herrings to the proletariat and the media who in it's eagerness to believe in an alternative voice in the political wilderness that they give this man and his party credence. If he had the polish of a Don Chipp and created a believable alternative party other than the reds and the blues then I believe it would be a different matter and the ink slingers would afford him a bit more positive press. He is a sideshow and nothing more who will eventually be found out to not be what he claims as well as the skeletons in his business ethics will eventually rise up (Chinese Citic Pacific iron ore anyone?) to cause his downfall.

My reference to Pauline Hanson and her discreditation and ultimate crucifixion via the media was merely a reference point as to what will be forthcoming to the PUP senators and eventually Clive himself. Ricky Muir (Who clearly should NEVER have been elected into the senate ... 0.01 per cent of the primary vote PFFFTTTT !!!) aligned himself with PUP and the media pounced and turned him into mice meat. Jacqui Lambie, Dio Wang, and Glenn Lazarus 15 minutes of fame will come as the media dissect their lack of understanding of Australian politics and how a government functions.

The self proclaimed billionaire is on a mission to sink his party faster than the Titanic (or even the Titanic II that Clive is supposed to be building) and unfortunately the voting public is lapping this bovine excreta up as gospel.

*RANT OVER*
 
Julia said:
The ABC reported that that suggestion came from a member of Abbott's own party, not Clive Palmer.
Do you have a link to Palmer's 'offer'?


Agree, yet he seems irrationally immovable on this. It's a trait that's concerning.

Noco, I wouldn't be counting your chickens just yet on Jeff Seeney's belated reference of Palmer to the CMC. You have to ask - if the demands were so corrupt - why was Mr Palmer not referred to the CMC two years ago?
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Julia, it is not illegal to delay any reference to the CMC.....politics is a dirty business on both sides of the house.....sometimes these anomalies are keep in the memory bank and brought out at a convenient time to discredit an opponent.......there is a state election in Queensland early in 2015 and no doubt the LNP will use it all to their advantage.

Both sides do it if they believe there is some political mileage......you only have to look at what happened to Barry O'Farrell and that bottle of wine...enough said.
 
trainspotter said:
*RANT OVER*
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Rant completely justified imo, TS. I'm duly reassured.

noco said:
Julia, it is not illegal to delay any reference to the CMC.....politics is a dirty business on both sides of the house.....sometimes these anomalies are keep in the memory bank and brought out at a convenient time to discredit an opponent.......there is a state election in Queensland early in 2015 and no doubt the LNP will use it all to their advantage.

Both sides do it if they believe there is some political mileage......you only have to look at what happened to Barry O'Farrell and that bottle of wine...enough said.
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Yes, accepted, noco. I'll be the first to cheer if Mr Palmer's ambitions are dealt any sort of blow.
 
trainspotter said:
As I posted in my rant .. Clive wants the info to come out as there is a few hairballs in the tender process from Hancock Prospecting that are about to clear the throat. ;)
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And right on queue here they are:

GREEN groups are challenging billionaire Gina Rinehart in Queensland's highest court in a bid to stop a mega coal mine.
Ms Rinehart's Hancock Coal and Indian mining giant GVK was given conditional approval in April to develop the multi-billion dollar Alpha coal mine in the Galilee Basin.
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http://www.news.com.au/national/bre...against-rinehart/story-e6frfku9-1226950202523

Clive does not want his little fiefdom upset by a bigger whale :D
 
Clive is upset that his train proposal was rejected over Gina's.

Mr Palmer has said his proposal would not have favoured Waratah Coal and would have ensured open access to infrastructure for every company operating in the basin in western Queensland.
In March 2013, the government announced Indian mining giant GVK and Gina Rinehart's Hancock Coal would work with freight rail company Aurizon to build rail infrastructure from the basin to the Abbot Point coal terminal near Bowen.
Mr Palmer on Friday produced four letters to him, from Mr Newman and Mr Seeney in 2012, showing they were pleased with Waratah Coal's proposals to build the rail line.
"I congratulate you for your efforts to date, which are contributing to the long-held vision of the Galilee Basin becoming a major new resource region," Mr Seeney said in April 2012, a month after the LNP won power.

Waratah went to the Supreme Court to challenge the government's rejection of its rail proposal in October 2013.
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http://www.news.com.au/national/bre...-defamation-list/story-e6frfku9-1226952925477

So why did the Campbell government choose Gina over Clive? Cause Clive basically threatened the QLD government by advising them that he would drop the litigation against them if they awarded the rail infrastructure to Waratah. Mr Palmer’s political clout was underlined by a weekend poll in Queensland showing that support for the Palmer United Party had climbed to 13.6 per cent, potentially making it a force at the state election due early next year. CMC , Supreme Court action ... aaahhhh politics of Australia is just getting interesting.
 
Clive Palmer is having a presser on policy today at 5:30pm EST, assuming he's on time.

It should at the least be entertaining.
 
Officially a Palmer united member wohhoo haha. Don't worry even if it is a mistake which I doubt at least I haven't made 40 years worth of mistakes supporting the libs/labours like some old timers on here haha. I don't know details but how is he going loco. He's just keeping it real. It would be good if he didn't have conflicts of interest but hey hopefully his key objective in the political sense isn't financially motivated. As long as he keeps to his words then ill keep voting for him.
 
oh yeah and I guess what I see in clive palmer is some one who cuts the crap and speaks the truth. If he does have a hidden agenda then that will be his downfall. But as long as he gets the youth fired up about politics and about the truth then that's worth fighting for. Leaders can come and go, be replaced but if it starts a new way of thinking, if it gets you fired up about the truth and doing the right thing for the people then eventually we might have some justice. Maybe he is just the catalyst for a bigger picture.
 

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