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Has Clive Palmer gone loco?

Yes without fear nor favour. If I wanted to hear lies I could down to the nearest park where derelicts live and ask them what went wrong with their lives. I expect more from those that insist they are "honourable" and take money for being so.

I'm not too sure I was annoyed at Emma for overcooking it or that the show piece could have lasted a few more minutes.

I used to pick up the so called derelects and put them in the can. From your off hand aside you have no idea of the social circumstances of the majority down on luck and most were very honest.
 
I have no time for Mr Palmer, but with respect to that part of the interview, I think maybe he had grounds to be irritated. The Citic Pacific case is before the courts and surely we should all be prepared to await the outcome before persisting with questions on this.

Yeah yeah, I know...the old innocent until proven guilty argument. The last refuge of the scoundrel! He kept saying "I'm not interested". Another lie. He is a very interested party indeed. But as I said earlier it is futile for any interviewer to try to interview such a lying buffoon.

Alberici questioned the billionaire over the alleged misappropriation of $12 million in funds.

"Look I'm not interested," he said in the Lateline interview.

Alberici replied: "Well our viewers may well be interested".

"Well I'm not interested in it," Mr Palmer said.

Alberici said: "You're a public figure Mr Palmer. The audience has a right to know.


Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...of-abc-lateline-interview#JM2vhIASIZfYVW0L.99
 
The conspiracy theories have started coming from uncle Clive as it as it appears Jacqui has her lawyer's clearance to leave PUP.

THE fireworks between Jacqui Lambie and Clive Palmer continue, with the Palmer United Party leader accusing his Tasmanian senator of being used by someone to infiltrate his party.

SENATOR Lambie is expected to announce her split from PUP on Monday after taking advice from Tasmanian lawyer and poppy grower Glynn Williams.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ion-on-pup-split/story-fn3dxiwe-1227132522193
 
Ms Lambie hadn't worked for 14 years before she took up with Palmer. She was on Disability Support Pension after discharge from the army with the ubiquitous back injury. The injury of course did not interfere with any of her activities.

In a statement, Mr Palmer suggested that Senator Lambie, who got the DSP after being medically discharged from the army, may have collected the payment while getting a full-time wage from the PUP ahead of her election.

“The question remains: was she receiving disability payments from the commonwealth for being unable to work while receiving a full-time salary at the same time from the Palmer United Party?’’ he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...n-election-trail/story-fn59niix-1227132400807
 
I used to pick up the so called derelects and put them in the can. From your off hand aside you have no idea of the social circumstances of the majority down on luck and most were very honest.


Oh yes I do and you know exactly what I asked (rhetorically) if you have indeed been a copper. My post wasn't a soapbox opportunity. You don't know me, but my money and resources most probably have touched your clients in some way.
 
The actual problem will be for Abbott.....herding cats just got a lot harder with another lose cannon.

Let the polls decide.

I think the public should be told the truth about our financial position by someone with merit (ABC fact check perhaps?) and then off to the polls we go.


All we have had for 14 months is spectre and pall of impending dire consequences if we don't do something quickly and people are getting exasperated at the lack of progress. The current mob promised us salvation, but the needle seems caught in the groove of behaving like the opposition rather the government. They can't even get past blaming everyone, including foreign leaders for their own paralysis.

Where is the adventure gone that Bob Hawke started; the thrill of the uncertainty, the opportunity to take risks, the entrepreneurial have a go, the knowing there is a safety net if we fall trying? Maybe it's all there, we just don't hear about it?
 
The court hearing began today...Palmer believes he does not have to explain to the Chinese how he spent $12.6 million.

All he is doing is digging a deeper hole for himself.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...tical-fund-court/story-fnn8dlfs-1227135710243

This Clive Palmer is nothing more than a crook in every sense of the word.

He has accepted millions from 4 of his allied companies and hasn't declared the political donations.

I think Uncle Clive is very hot water in deed....Interesting times ahead.....his vindictiveness with the Queensland Government is all going to back fire on him big time.



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...136270124?sv=fbd43d800dca964a1e7e5e7b36d5124b
 
Some Clive supporters think that journalists have no right to question him on the Citic civil case.:rolleyes:

CLIVE Palmer has told journalists to "stick it" after again being questioned about his business dealings.

THE Palmer United Party leader cut short a press conference in Canberra on Thursday when asked about his dispute with the state-owned Chinese company CITIC Pacific.

CITIC is suing the federal MP over claims more than $12 million was misappropriated by his company Mineralogy.

Palmer repeatedly has dodged questions about the issue, cutting short television interviews and press conferences.

Asked why he was avoiding scrutiny, the billionaire businessman said he couldn't comment because the matter was before the courts.

When told it was a civil case and he was allowed to comment, Mr Palmer told reporters: "Stick it," before storming away.


On Monday he launched a bizarre attack on journalists at the National Press Club, accusing those who asked about CITIC of being lackeys for media magnate Rupert Murdoch
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...urnos-over-citic/story-fni0xqi3-1227144631392
 
Doesn't he have a valid point in this instance? The issue is before the courts, and that's usually offered as a reason not to comment.
 
Doesn't he have a valid point in this instance? The issue is before the courts, and that's usually offered as a reason not to comment.

He may be allowed to comment on a civil case, but it would be unwise to do so while the case was still going on in case something he said outside the court could be used against him.

What is particularly aggravating about Palmer is his rudeness, intolerance and arrogance. He could make it quite clear that he wasn't going to answer questions about a court case without telling the media to "stuff it". He has done this a number of times now and it's not a good look.

Don't expect an ambassadorship for Clive anytime soon.
:)
 
Don't expect an ambassadorship for Clive anytime soon.
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Indeed no. If it all falls apart for Clive, an alternative career in the diplomatic service might not be on the cards.

The same could be said for his erstwhile senator, Ms Lambie, whose level of anger, obsession and irrationality seems to grow exponentially.
 
Doesn't he have a valid point in this instance? The issue is before the courts, and that's usually offered as a reason not to comment.

If Clive has a valid point about anything I have yet to hear it.:rolleyes: He thinks the CITIC case is part of a conspiracy against him by Rupert Murdoch working hand in glove with the Chinese government.:D

He said;

“The coalition of News Limited (publisher of The Australian), the Liberal Party and the Chinese state-owned enterprise working in unison on these matters demonstrates a political agenda.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ops-are-after-me/story-fnk76wj3-1227134934083
 
Things are going from bad to worse for Clive

Should we judge him for the company he keeps, or give him the benefit of the doubt ?

Clive Palmer media adviser Andrew Crook charged over alleged kidnap of National Australia Bank executive

Clive Palmer's media adviser and confidant Andrew Crook has been charged by Queensland Police over the alleged kidnapping of a National Australia Bank executive on an Indonesian island.

As part of the same operation, police from the state's anti-bikie taskforce arrested Mick Featherstone, a Gold Coast private investigator and former senior detective at the centre of a year-long probe by Queensland's Crime and Corruption Commission into money laundering and police corruption.

Police have also issued a warrant for the arrest of multi-millionaire property developer and former Sydney Swans AFL player Tony Smith, who lives in Bali.
Do you know more about this story? Email investigations@abc.net.au

Mr Crook and Mr Featherstone were detained during morning raids at addresses in the Brisbane suburb of New Farm and Upper Coomera on the Gold Coast.

Mr Crook was then taken to his Brisbane CBD office where police carried out further searches.


The media adviser to perhaps Australia's most flamboyant politician, the former AFL player turned tourism tycoon, and the private eye. Find out more about the men at the centre of this morning's raids.

Officers also raided another Brisbane premises and seized documents.

The ABC understands Queensland Police will allege Mr Crook and Mr Smith were involved in a January 2013 attempt to coerce a witness in a $70 million civil case involving Mr Smith to recant his evidence, using subterfuge and threats of violence.

The ABC understands Mr Crook and Mr Featherstone will be charged later today with attempting to pervert the course of justice, retaliation against a witness and attempted fraud against NAB.

Queensland Police say the charges stem from an elaborate scheme which police will allege was planned partly in Queensland. Section 12 of the Queensland Criminal Code allows for prosecutions for offences overseas where they would be considered crimes in Australia.

Police have been investigating claims Mr Crook and Mr Smith lured the witness, an employee of the National Australia Bank, to Singapore and on to Batam Island in Indonesia using the pretence of a possible job offer from Clive Palmer.

It will be alleged that once on Batam Island, the witness was strip-searched, threatened and forced to make a statement recanting his evidence.

Detective Superintendent Michael Niland and Detective Inspector Phil Stevens from Taskforce Maxima will hold a media conference at 2:30pm AEST.
Clive Palmer calls raids a 'black day for Australia'

Mr Palmer is not thought to have had any involvement in, or knowledge of the plot.

The federal MP arrived at Mr Crook's office during the raid and said he knew nothing of the allegations.


But he suggested the police actions could be politically motivated.

"I don't know very much other than to say that Crook Media and Andrew Crook are responsible for all our media in Australia, was responsible for the Palmer United Party winning the last federal election," he said.

"And of course, the LNP, the Liberal Government - Campbell Newman and Tony Abbott - don't like the opposition we've been giving them in the Senate, they don't like that sort of thing.

"I think this is a black day for Australia if any of this, which I don't know anything about at the moment, has anything to do with political freedom in this country.

"I think it's very important that there's freedom of speech in Australia, that there's diversity of opinion. I'm personally very concerned because Mr Crook is our media adviser and if they wanted to attack me or our party they can do that."

Brisbane-based Mr Crook has been Mr Palmer's media adviser and spokesman since before the tycoon entered politics.

Since becoming a federal MP, Mr Palmer has retained the services of Mr Crook and his PR firm, Crook Media, to handle his political media relations.
Clive Palmer chats with Andrew Crook Photo: Mr Crook has been Mr Palmer's media adviser and spokesman since before the tycoon entered politics. (AAP: Dave Hunt)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-19/palmer-media-adviser-detained-over-alleged-kidnap/5978632
 
Things are going from bad to worse for Clive

Should we judge him for the company he keeps, or give him the benefit of the doubt ?

Clive Palmer media adviser Andrew Crook charged over alleged kidnap of National Australia Bank executive

Does Clive Palmer know how to make bullets?....if he does, then, he most likely gets someone else to fire them.
 
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