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Value Collector · 18 May 2018

Tisme said:
So now I'm delusional for posting some facts? That's a long bow to draw.

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No I said you are deluded if you think racism isn't real.

I was brought up in poverty, I didn't resort to crime to satiate my desire to do well.

Did I say that everyone in poverty resorts to crime? no I didn't.

What I said is that communities with higher poverty levels experience higher lapses into crime.

And I didn't need people studying me, but I could have done with hand which I never got and never expected

You did have a lot going in your favour, no doubt part of your success was achieved as a result of getting a fair go at some point, and people giving you a chance to succeed.

Simply being white and male has historically meant society gives you a better "suck at the sav" than blacks.

Again, if you honestly feel that none of the things that helped you or pulled others back was due to your race, I think you are deluded.

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Now I am not saying that all whites have it easy or its impossible for any blacks to succeed, just that there has been a lot racism built into our culture historically that has worked in favour of some and against others.

Just the other day two black men had the police called on them for sitting in star bucks, Do you really think if they call the police on them for sitting in the store they will get fair treatment in a job interview?

SirRumpole · 18 May 2018

Value Collector said:
Simply being white and male has historically meant society gives you a better "suck at the sav" than blacks.

As does being good looking and female vs ordinary girls or guys.

SirRumpole · 18 May 2018

Value Collector said:
No I said you are deluded if you think racism isn't real.

Some of it is self inflicted though.

There seems to be an "anti white" sentiment in some areas , especially in Australia.

Some indigs don't trust the white man because of past events, stick to themselves and view white people's property as fair game.

I'm sure they are a minority, but that is racism too.

fiftyeight · 18 May 2018

Value Collector said:
Open carry gun laws only work for white people.

If you are white, cop approaches greets you politely, talks to you and then leaves.

If you black they draw their gun and threaten you.

Whaaaaaat that is one brave black dude!!!!

moXJO · 18 May 2018

Wasn't one of the statistics that cops were 18.5 times more likely to be shot by blacks?

And the murder rate for black on black violence in 2014, over 6000 blacks were murdered, more than all white and Hispanic homicide victims combined?

Darc Knight · 18 May 2018

If the majority of Americans had a black slave and there was a very strong group called the N.S.A. vigorously advocating the rights of Slave owners, slavery would probably still exist in the U.S.

moXJO · 18 May 2018

Darc Knight said:
If the majority of Americans had a black slave and there was a very strong group called the N.S.A. vigorously advocating the rights of Slave owners, slavery would probably still exist in the U.S.

If US history didn't exist, it might.

Darc Knight · 18 May 2018

God bless the NRA. Making Guns more easily available to unstable people since 1871.

Value Collector · 18 May 2018

SirRumpole said:
As does being good looking and female vs ordinary girls or guys.

Of course, and I would claim anyone who says that doesn't happen is also deluded.

Value Collector · 18 May 2018

fiftyeight said:
Whaaaaaat that is one brave black dude!!!!

Yeah, with the history of trigger happy cops it is very brave.

Value Collector · 18 May 2018

moXJO said:
Wasn't one of the statistics that cops were 18.5 times more likely to be shot by blacks?

And the murder rate for black on black violence in 2014, over 6000 blacks were murdered, more than all white and Hispanic homicide victims combined?

So what conclusion are you drawing?

are you saying blacks are natural born criminals? or do you accept that certain societal problems including racism may contribute?

Statistics can be looked at in many ways, Cops are also 10 times more likely to shoot other people than be shot themselves.

USA cops are far to trigger happy, this is probably caused by there being to many guns floating around causing them to be paranoid.

Take a look at this Unarmed guy caring for his autistic patient get shot when his hands were up, I doubt it would have happened if he was white. studies have shown people (including cops) are more likely to be fearful of black people, this causes them to have all sorts of issues with police and employment that us white folks just don't have.

SirRumpole · 18 May 2018

Value Collector said:
USA cops are far to trigger happy, this is probably caused by there being to many guns floating around causing them to be paranoid.

That would be the case I think, but our cops are pretty trigger happy too, liking shooting dead people carrying knives instead of standing off and maybe shooting them in the leg or other non fatal places.

moXJO · 18 May 2018

Value Collector said:
So what conclusion are you drawing?

are you saying blacks are natural born criminals? or do you accept that certain societal problems including racism may contribute?

Statistics can be looked at in many ways, Cops are also 10 times more likely to shoot other people than be shot themselves.

USA cops are far to trigger happy, this is probably caused by there being to many guns floating around causing them to be paranoid.

Take a look at this Unarmed guy caring for his autistic patient get shot when his hands were up, I doubt it would have happened if he was white. studies have shown people (including cops) are more likely to be fearful of black people, this causes them to have all sorts of issues with police and employment that us white folks just don't have.

If black people shoot more cops, then cops won't be taking any risks. I wouldn’t for sht pay either.
It's easy to snark about US cops but they deal with thousands of deadly situations a day.

Of course theres racism.
There's also fear, psychopaths, under trained, indifference and all the rest.

You don't know how people will react until they are in a dangerous situation. I've seen people freeze up, make the dumbest of decisions or just go to water.

The black community has a lot of problems with "thug life" still being idolized. There's a reason cops are on edge.

Value Collector · 19 May 2018

SirRumpole said:
That would be the case I think, but our cops are pretty trigger happy too, liking shooting dead people carrying knives instead of standing off and maybe shooting them in the leg or other non fatal places.

To be fair, if some one actually charges you with a knife, you are not going to try and shoot them in the leg, or shoot it out of their hands, it’s not Hollywood.

When you actually need to shoot, you will shoot for what is called “center of seen mass”,

I have no problem with lethal force when neeed, but I do have a problem with paranoid cops shooting unarmed people.

Value Collector · 19 May 2018

moXJO said:
If black people shoot more cops, then cops won't be taking any risks. I wouldn’t for sht pay either.
It's easy to snark about US cops but they deal with thousands of deadly situations a day.

Of course theres racism.
There's also fear, psychopaths, under trained, indifference and all the rest.

You don't know how people will react until they are in a dangerous situation. I've seen people freeze up, make the dumbest of decisions or just go to water.

The black community has a lot of problems with "thug life" still being idolized. There's a reason cops are on edge.

So the guy in the video I posted deserved to be shot?

Can you honestly say you would have shot him?

Value Collector · 19 May 2018

Man shot 8 times in the back by police officer,

This cop is currently serving a 20 year sentence for second degree murder.

luutzu · 19 May 2018

Tisme said:
The over arching problem is the guns in public domains. That and, by USofA race, blacks are sixteen times more likely arrested for robbery, seven times for homicide, etc

Arrested do not mean guilty though right?

Guilty might not mean fair and properly defended trial by their peers with no racist cops or ambitious prosecutors with good gut feelings.

luutzu · 19 May 2018

Value Collector said:
Man shot 8 times in the back by police officer,

This cop is currently serving a 20 year sentence for second degree murder.

If it weren't for that and another video, the cops would have gotten away with it..

They actually planted a gun on the body in another video.

noirua · 19 May 2018

Belgian authorities admit two-year-old girl was shot after police chase
https://www.theguardian.com/global-...two-year-old-girl-was-shot-after-police-chase

Value Collector · 19 May 2018

Cop shoots unarmed man wearing headphones as he walked away unable to hear the cops instructions.

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