I'm pretty sure that "crop dusting" as it is known occurs in most or all Australian states. Could be wrong there but that's my understanding.wow -
whilst i disagree with most of your post Kim, I sure as hell find that chemtrail website the weirdest damned thing I've ever seen .
http://imageevent.com/firesat/strangedaysstrangeskies?z=3&c=4&n=1&m=-1&w=4&x=0&p=14
Only thing that comes close maybe is the Tasmanian aerial spraying of the forestry (and the Tassie Devils) - (and the people living or bushwalking at the margins etc thereof)
Anyone know what it's all about - this Chemtrail stuff?
...Just wait until we use all the conventional natural gas trying to cut emissions from power stations then end up mining methane, losing most of it to the atmosphere in the process, to make motor fuel, plastics and fertilizer.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=544088&in_page_id=1770
It was the coldest Easter in the UK for more than 40 years - and we may not see spring weather until April
By TOM KELLY - More by this author »
Last updated at 10:08am on 25th March 2008
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The icy Easter weekend was declared the coldest for 44 years yesterday as forecasters warned of more bad weather for the rest of the month.
Snow and sleet storms made it a miserable trip home from the bank holiday break for up to 16million motorists last night.
And the Met Office could not offer any solace to those returning to work this morning after the first white Easter for more than a decade.
click on link above to continue..
when its cold its "climate change"
and when its hot its "global warming"
its simple really...
(well thats the tactic of the AGW hypist nutters who regularly distort facts to convince the gullible public we're all about to die...)
Long-Term Temperature Variations in Australia
Temperature variations over Australia during the past century have been consistent with global trends in showing an increase in the mean temperature (average of daytime maximum and overnight minimum temperatures) over most of the continent. The last two decades have been particularly warm, with many of the warmest years on record having occurred during the 1980s and 1990s.
Temperature Moderation
Overnight temperatures tend to have increased more than daytime temperatures resulting in a decrease in the diurnal temperature range (the difference between the maximum and minimum temperatures during the day).
Consistent with the warming trend is an increase in the frequency of warm days and nights, and a decrease in the number of cool days and nights. There has also been a significant decrease in the number of minimum temperatures below 0°C and a trend toward a shorter frost season, particularly in inland eastern Australia.
Most of Australia has experienced a warming trend in maximum temperature during recent decades. However, this trend is not uniform throughout the country; the strongest warming trend being in inland Queensland, northeast South Australia and northern Tasmania
I'm saying that GW could be right, it could be wrong.Nassim Taleb:
"Extremistan: the province where the total can be conceivably impacted by a single observation."
http://www.isse.ucar.edu/extremevalues/extreme.html
wayne - please clarify - are you now saying that GW is wrong ?
or that AGW is wrong ?
Dr Grace has been working with the South Australian Research and Development Institute (SARDI) Climate Applications Unit to gain a better understanding of heatwaves in wine growing regions of the state.
He has developed what is believed to be the first heatwave occurrence model, based on statewide dating back more than 100 years, and statistics from the past 30 years collected at the Bureau of Meteorology at Kent Town in Adelaide.
"This heat wave is close to being off the scale," he said.
"Adelaide, with 15 days over 35 degrees, returns a one in 3,000 year event."
Dr Grace said Nuriootpa, in the Barossa Valley, recorded 13 days over 35 degrees - a one in 1,000 year event, while Loxton in the state's Riverland had 15 days over 35 degrees which was a one in 200 year event.
Adelaide's 15-day heatwave surpassed the previous capital city heatwave record of Perth, which experienced 10 days over 35 degrees in February 1988.
The all-time national heatwave record was set in Marble Bar in northern Western Australia, which had 160 consecutive days at or above 37.8 degrees celsius (or 100 degrees fahrenheit) in the summer of 1923-24
Mate, comparing the linear to the chaotic is, dare I say, sh!te.well wayne, you say it's sh1te.. (grade 10 students etc)
not sure how you draw that conclusion, but IFF he conceded it might be 1500 year - would you call that irrelavant as well .?
btw , same odds (allegedly) as throwing 12 heads in a row.
so for 1500 year event you only need 11 heads in a row I'm guessing.
Anyway, I'm not your competition in this argument - this bloke is.
Note that it's a 1 in 3000 year event in Adelaide, and 1 in 200 year in Loxton.
http://news.theage.com.au/adelaide-heatwave-one-in-3000-years/20080318-2034.html
well if we were talking bridges,Mate, comparing the linear to the chaotic is, dare I say, sh!te.
Comparing the probabilities of a coin toss to weather events is like comparing (I was going to say apple to oranges, but no) a mustard seed to a whirlwind.
Once more, to suggest a normal distribution of outcomes in weather events is at best, naive , and at worst, outright manipulation.
It is a complete prostitution and bastardization of statistics.
well if we were talking bridges,
and there was a 97% confidence that a certain load would not be exceeded in a given period of time
then that would be pretty close (call it identical) to a 1 in 32 chance of it being exceeded.
and likewise, it would be the exactly the same as throwing a coin 5 times and gettting 5 heads. (2^5) . (quick calc)
why can't you compare coins with probability of return periods?
wayneA/ I thought you knew something about statistics.
B/ You need to do some reading on chaos theory.
Coin tossing distributions are deterministic and normal in distribution.
Weather distributions are chaotic (in the physics sense) and would have some level of kurtosis. How much, the IPCC shill does not reveal, if indeed that is even able to be determined given such a small sample size.
To reveal the effects of small sample size, have a toy around with sigma on stock market returns, it will reveal this guy as the muppet he is.
Bridge design is a whole 'nuther bowl of wax, and for the purposes of this discussioin, entirely irrelevant.wayne
you are out of step with the designer of every bridge you have ever been across.
cos "100 year return period" (wind flood whatever), and "1 chance in 100 of happening in any given year" are treated as near as dammit identical. (no need to go to 5 decimal points in these things btw)
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Antarctica's massive Wilkins Ice Shelf has begun disintegrating under the effects of global warming, satellite images by the University of Colorado's National Snow and Ice Data Center showed.
The collapse of a substantial section of the shelf was triggered February 28 when an iceberg measuring 41 by 2.4 kilometers (25.5 by 1.5 miles) broke off its southwestern front.
That movement led to disintegration of the shelf's interior, of which 414 square kilometers (160 square miles) have already disappeared, scientists say.
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