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Global Master Traders - Peter Bryant and Aaron Furst

This will be my one and only post on these forums and on this topic. I wasn't going to buy into this, but after a chat with Merv (yes I know him), I agreed that it was unfair to see someone's personal and professional reputation be assasinated while I sat by and did nothing.

Considering that this isn't the only account you've registered here at ASF, you are 100% correct, this WILL be the only post you make on these forums:D

And while I'm at it:


but after a chat with Merv (yes I know him)

Your other alias on this forum(groggo) was addressed by Merv yesterday:

Hey Groggo, I've been a member of Learnenimi group for 18 months now, and best move I ever made. Happy to pass off my experience personally if you want to contact me. mkrollxxxaapt.net.au just replace xxx with @.

Goes for anyone else who may be seeking an opinion from someone who has been turned into a trader by the learnemini teachings...

cheers

Mervk

Seems odd that Merv would make the offer to let you know how satisfied he is with the course when the 2 of you already know each other.

This is turning into some kind of freakshow of a thread.

Surely your mentor, Mr Furst isn't going to be too pleased with the deceptive conduct that is being used by some of his students to try and promote his products. Not a good look IMO:2twocents
 
Just to finish off in here for the day, apart from the deceptive conduct pointed out in my last post, I thought I would also highlight the comments made by our now banned poster who thought it would be a good idea to sign up more than one account:

I too am a current student of Aaron Fursts. I, like Merv, joined up during his association with Real Traders. I want to state categorically that I am receiving no incentive to post this.

Hi Ruby

I have been looking into emini courses and have been looking at those sites as well as a couple of others, traders international and elite traders are others. there seems to be so much negativity towards just about every course i find and it's hard to find feedback from people who've done the courses. (apart from on the websites!)
Do you have any experiences with these guys or anyone else

thanks

So here we have Merv and Jason who are behaving in what can only be described as a deceptive manner trying to promote this course.

Heading over to the website, and on the testimonials page, there are 2 glowing reviews from a MervK and a JasonL(see pictures attached to this post).

http://www.eminiuniversity.com.au/index.php?page=testimonial

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Frink, does it not seem funny to you that Jason is in WA, and I am in Qld? How else could we know each other except in the Learnemini trading room, as we have claimed? And if we are still in that room ater 18 months, does it sound like we are being ripped off, as Sharone claims would happen? And did it cross your mind that though I know Jason thru the trading room, I don't know him well enough to know he was "Groggy"? I joined your forum yesterday, so how could I know?

Is it not strange that Sharone has made 3 posts only on this entire forum, all in this thread in this character assination attempt? Having done her worst, where is she now? And is it not strange that someone having made only 3 posts, all malicious, is defended by people who have no knowledge of the learnenini course offered by Mr Furst? (yourself included. It was only after you offered abuse to me that you decided to " have a look at the site" to see for yourself. Read your earlier post.)

No skin off my nose what this seemingly jilted bride/scorned mistress/disgruntled past employee called Sharone does, but it is remarkable the support she is getting from people such as yourself, who have not even had the decency to do some investigating of your own. Take up the challenge - sit in at the trading room one night and join us. We don't even need to know you're there. Perhaps you might even learn something about trading futures....

I am quite happy for you to ban me for life also. In fact, I insist on it.

Cheers

Mervk
 
I am quite happy for you to ban me for life also. In fact, I insist on it.

Ok then if that's what you want. I'll refrain from addressing the main parts of your post if you aren't going to be around to respond.

Good luck with your trading:)
 
Afternoon folks,

ASF admin has been contacted via email by the person who posted here as both "groggo and "Jason6". He claims that in spite of the fact that he acted in violation of ASF's rules by deliberately registering two ASF accounts, "mervK" was unaware that he had posted here as "groggo" and that neither of them were trying to deceive anyone.

This information is being posted here in the interest of fairness and I will let those reading this thread come to their own conclusions about his honesty .

Cheers
 
Thank you for providing the name of Real Traders. After reading your post I contacted them and as I suspected, there is another, completely different side to the story!

However, this has nothing to do with the argument between you and them. It is concerned with lies perpetrated by your distributor; a recorded webinar advertised as a live webinar, and a fraudulent invoice sent to me by Peter Bryant charging me $9,000 + $900 GST for your emini course, when he is not registered for GST. The ABN on the invoice (ABN no 32 635 054 419) is still not registered for GST. This information is in the public domain and anyone can look it up, so stating it here is neither a lie nor is it slanderous or defamatory.

If doing due diligence is a good thing, why are you so upset by the revelation of this nasty little fact? Don’t you agree it is a good thing to weed dodgy operators out of the industry?

Of course you didn’t see anyone called ‘Sharone’ in one of your webinars! That is my ASF identity, and as it was a recording, you probably weren’t even there!

I don’t imagine anyone is interested in your petty claims of cyberstalking. You have made no attempt to address the issues I raised in my post of 5th April, but have instead sought to muddy the waters by making personal attacks on me and another forum member.

Just where do you really live, Mr Furst? Is it in Singapore, Florida, New Zealand, Hong Kong? Or is it actually the Gold Coast?

ABN: 32 635 054 419
View current ABN details
Last modified: 23 Apr 2010
ABN status From To
Active 13 Jul 2009 (current)
Entity names From To
BRYANT, PETER JOHN 13 Jul 2009 (current)
Entity type
Individual/Sole Trader
GST status From To
Active 22 Apr 2010 (current)

Main business locations From To
QLD 4655 06 Oct 2009 (current)
QLD 4217 13 Jul 2009 06 Oct 2009
Trading name(s) From To
Peter J Bryant 13 Jul 2009 (current)
Peter John Bryant 06 Oct 2009 (current)

Guess who got themselves registered for GST REAL QUICK LIKE ?? :eek:
 
I would like to add my “bob’s” worth to this thread as I enrolled in Aaron Furst’s Eminis for Income education programme about 7 months ago. From day one, even during the live (and yes it was live) introductory Webinar, I was extremely impressed with Aaron’s professionalism, depth of technical trading knowledge and his teaching style. I am very much a beginner trader, but I have been in high level corporate life for nearly 40 years and I have been involved in many training courses, so I know the real thing when I come across it, and believe me Aaron’s course is definitely not a scam. His teaching style, honesty and loyalty to his students makes him stand out, and he has well and truly set me on the path to becoming a professional trader. I am quite happy to discuss my experiences personally with anyone who wishes to get in touch with me.

I am not sure what the Sharone/Ruby/Real-Traders consortium problem is with Aaron, but I can't stand back and see someone’s reputation be unfairly tainted by statements and comments that I know for a fact to be outright lies. It seems rather strange that after all the years that Aaron has been trading the only person to come up with any negative comments is Sharone/Ruby.

Cheers, Nigel.
 
I would like to add my “bob’s” worth to this thread as I enrolled in Aaron Furst’s Eminis for Income education programme about 7 months ago. From day one, even during the live (and yes it was live) introductory Webinar, I was extremely impressed with Aaron’s professionalism, depth of technical trading knowledge and his teaching style. I am very much a beginner trader, but I have been in high level corporate life for nearly 40 years and I have been involved in many training courses, so I know the real thing when I come across it, and believe me Aaron’s course is definitely not a scam. His teaching style, honesty and loyalty to his students makes him stand out, and he has well and truly set me on the path to becoming a professional trader. I am quite happy to discuss my experiences personally with anyone who wishes to get in touch with me.

I am not sure what the Sharone/Ruby/Real-Traders consortium problem is with Aaron, but I can't stand back and see someone’s reputation be unfairly tainted by statements and comments that I know for a fact to be outright lies. It seems rather strange that after all the years that Aaron has been trading the only person to come up with any negative comments is Sharone/Ruby.

Cheers, Nigel.

lol. Even if this is in fact cyberstalking or deliberate defamation, perhaps the best way to get through it is to let it die, rather than to stir the pot again??

Now more people are reading the thread and doubting about the service.

Great stuff...
 
I was extremely impressed with Aaron’s professionalism, depth of technical trading knowledge and his teaching style. I am very much a beginner trader,
Picked up this nuance which begs the question how one could identify "depth of technical trading knowledge" while being "very much a beginner".

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Separate topic.

It is disappointing that dishonesty is so rampant on the internet within trading circles. I assume one way to a dollar is winning the confidence of potential clients, whatever it takes. As was mentioned on another post, anyone can make claims with anonymity while masking surreptitious intent.
When people are doing the right thing, this does not manifest.
 
Nigel, are you still a student of Aaron Furst?

NigelG

I ask you another very simple question:

As you logged onto this forum and thread today, “why have you NOT provided a simple answer to a very basic query regarding your student status with Aaron Furst”?

Surely Mr Furst would like you to confirm this information if you are in fact a legitimate student!
 
Seriously, there is always someone here waiting to take the bait from a 1 post wonder like this guy. :banghead:

When the first post is a ringing endorsement of a commercial product its a bit of a giveaway, yeah.
:spam:

Shame. If these guys were so good they could probably contribute something of value to the forum.
 
Originally posted by Timmy

"When the first post is a ringing endorsement of a commercial product its a bit of a giveaway, yeah.

Shame. If these guys were so good they could probably contribute something of value to the forum."

They probably would Timmy if you gave them the $9000 plus GST:)
 
Hi my name is doug & l have been involved with Aaron as a student since February 2009 which was with Real Traders. I also did not want to get involved in this but l feel l cannot sit & watch Aaron treated this way.
I have read all the posts & I can say Aaronstraining sessions are all live unless someone asks for a replay of a particular training event, the real possitive is Aaron is alway contactable by phone, text or email to answer questions of offer supportwhen it is needed & of course the live room is invaluable.
I am a real person& anyone who wants can contact me to confirm the above
 
The only way to have true credibility is to have a proper licence that ASIC requires and to be a profitable trader with a real 'live' account and willing to show your detailed trades to people who are interested.

I don't know of many who are willing to do that.

Picked up this nuance which begs the question how one could identify "depth of technical trading knowledge" while being "very much a beginner".

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Separate topic.

It is disappointing that dishonesty is so rampant on the internet within trading circles. I assume one way to a dollar is winning the confidence of potential clients, whatever it takes. As was mentioned on another post, anyone can make claims with anonymity while masking surreptitious intent.
When people are doing the right thing, this does not manifest.
 
Something really smells rotten here!!



Once again, a little bit of time passes, and another of Aaron's "students" shows up to make a one time post praising their teacher.

Based on what they are all posting, it's almost like a set of guidelines have been drawn up in regards to making a post here, and been sent out with the instructions to keep bumping the thread to generate some page views and interest in the product. Of course I could be wrong and this is just my opinion, but the posts all seem to have quite a few similarities;)

First, they make a comment about how much they enjoy the course and respect Aaron as a teacher:
mervk said:
never, ever, have I experienced anything as sound and educational as that offered by Aaron.
Jason6 said:
My experiences with Aaron have been nothing but positive
NigelG said:
From day one, even during the live (and yes it was live) introductory Webinar, I was extremely impressed with Aaron’s professionalism, depth of technical trading knowledge and his teaching style.
sunny cairns said:
I have read all the posts & I can say Aaronstraining sessions are all live unless someone asks for a replay of a particular training event, the real possitive is Aaron is alway contactable by phone, text or email to answer questions of offer supportwhen it is needed & of course the live room is invaluable.

Then they all make a comment about about him being unfairly treated and that they simply couldn't sit back and see Aaron treated this way:

mervk said:
I think Sharone and Ruby are ill advised. Indedd, the effort they have expended reeks of an assination attempt.
Jason6 said:
I agreed that it was unfair to see someone's personal and professional reputation be assasinated while I sat by and did nothing.

NigelG said:
I am not sure what the Sharone/Ruby/Real-Traders consortium problem is with Aaron, but I can't stand back and see someone’s reputation be unfairly tainted by statements and comments that I know for a fact to be outright lies.
sunny cairns said:
I also did not want to get involved in this but l feel l cannot sit & watch Aaron treated this way.

Then, 3 out of the 4 of them all make the offer to anyone reading the thread to contact them if they want any more information(all except for Jason6 who neglected to include this part):

mervk said:
I'm happy to pass on my experiences with Aaron Furst personally if anyone wants to contact me

NigelG said:
I am quite happy to discuss my experiences personally with anyone who wishes to get in touch with me.
sunny cairns said:
I am a real person& anyone who wants can contact me to confirm the above

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