FiftyEight Fluffs Around In Futures

[fiftyeight]

Funding AMP,

After many many dramas, a change of brokers nearly a change of platforms I have an unlocked license of NT so I am refunding my AMP account.

Should I fund in AUD or USD. Not sure of the pros and cons?

What do others do?

 

[CanOz]

Funding AMP,

After many many dramas, a change of brokers nearly a change of platforms I have an unlocked license of NT so I am refunding my AMP account.

Should I fund in AUD or USD. Not sure of the pros and cons?

What do others do?

Mine is funded in USD. I funded it a long time ago when the Aussie was strong. If you're going to trade US or European products, it makes the records relevance easier if you fund in the currency you plan on trading. Ninja is hopeless on currencies...So try and fund in the currency you plan on trading in to keep your records simple, that's my only view.

 

[fiftyeight]

Any ideas where I could get historical data for the JNM

 

[shodd]

Any ideas where I could get historical data for the JNM

If you're using Ninja this will not be as easy as you think. Ninja have stated that they will not carry any historical on their servers, meaning you will either have to do one of the following -

1) Purchase a block from JPX . The parse the data in to a format that NT will accept. The problem with this is that there will be a gap in time between the data you have ordered and where the market is currently. So this option is only useful for running backtesting operations via NT.

2) Subscribe to a secondary data feed such as barchart.com, esignal, kinetick etc. I found esignal the best although getting NT to consistently fill from the secondary for this contract was problematic. Some days I would get the bars I needed, other days I would get a blank chart. The esignal client would display the data on a chart for you, but it exists outside of the NT environment so no good if you want to run NT indicators\strategies or a volume profile against the data.

3) Leave NT running and collect the data yourself. There is an option to enable the writing of real time data to historical DB in the options somewhere. Again I found this problematic as some days NT would not update a single JMN chart. It would however record the data so you could view it the following day. I did have a decent amount of data stored only to find it disappeared on me one Monday morning.

4) Switch platforms. The folk at Multicharts offer a reliable historical service for the Nikkei 225 mini through their free to use Multicharts.net special edition that you can run via AMP. Multicharts is not everyone's favourite charting package, but it does have a lot of the tools you will likely need to use built in. If you're serious about trading this contract then you should look in to this option. The downsides being the 3rd party ecosystem is a lot smaller and you will need to engage with AMP customer support, which is never that easy.

I am currently trying to complete option 4. I use Jigsaw primarily so I won't lose anything from a functional perspective. The contract is about the right thickness for my tastes and being able to trade it during the work day here in Oz makes my family happy. I've just got to wrangle customer support in to fixing my platform setup which is taking longer than it should!

Anyway, hope my post helps you save the many many hours I have wasted to get a workable setup.

 

[fiftyeight]

If you're using Ninja this will not be as easy as you think. Ninja have stated that they will not carry any historical on their servers, meaning you will either have to do one of the following -

1) Purchase a block from JPX . The parse the data in to a format that NT will accept. The problem with this is that there will be a gap in time between the data you have ordered and where the market is currently. So this option is only useful for running backtesting operations via NT.

This may work. I will soon be running some volume profile and I use Jigsaw. If I used this for prep and then AMP during the session maybe.

2) Subscribe to a secondary data feed such as barchart.com, esignal, kinetick etc. I found esignal the best although getting NT to consistently fill from the secondary for this contract was problematic. Some days I would get the bars I needed, other days I would get a blank chart. The esignal client would display the data on a chart for you, but it exists outside of the NT environment so no good if you want to run NT indicators\strategies or a volume profile against the data.

This sounds less than ideal and is the exact situation I am trying to avoid. I have spent way too long trying to figure this out. I do not want it to be an ongoing battle

3) Leave NT running and collect the data yourself. There is an option to enable the writing of real time data to historical DB in the options somewhere. Again I found this problematic as some days NT would not update a single JMN chart. It would however record the data so you could view it the following day. I did have a decent amount of data stored only to find it disappeared on me one Monday morning.

I work remote and the internet is horrible while I am on site. I have been trying for a week to get it to work but it keeps dropping out.

4) Switch platforms. The folk at Multicharts offer a reliable historical service for the Nikkei 225 mini through their free to use Multicharts.net special edition that you can run via AMP. Multicharts is not everyone's favourite charting package, but it does have a lot of the tools you will likely need to use built in. If you're serious about trading this contract then you should look in to this option. The downsides being the 3rd party ecosystem is a lot smaller and you will need to engage with AMP customer support, which is never that easy.

I nearly went down this path a few weeks ago. As you said Jigsaw works and Rancho advised me that sometime this year they will be making their products available on Multi. I was leaning this way when NT finally gave me a one time chance to buy an unlocked licence of NT that I could use with AMP.

I am currently trying to complete option 4. I use Jigsaw primarily so I won't lose anything from a functional perspective. The contract is about the right thickness for my tastes and being able to trade it during the work day here in Oz makes my family happy. I've just got to wrangle customer support in to fixing my platform setup which is taking longer than it should!

Anyway, hope my post helps you save the many many hours I have wasted to get a workable setup.

Thanks for the help, it has not been fun trying to sought this stuff out. Lots of dead ends and wasted time.

 

[shodd]

Rancho advised me that sometime this year they will be making their products available on Multi.

That would be fantastic! Will say goodbye to NT for good then.

Thanks for the help, it has not been fun trying to sought this stuff out. Lots of dead ends and wasted time.

No worries, hopefully you get up an running soon. Would be good to move the discussion from the logistics to the actual trading

 

[CanOz]

NT8 with Rancho is working really well. I've got a ton of charts open, all with composites and long term data...Its using a bit of memory for the data but the CPU is 1/10th of NT7

 

[ThingyMajiggy]

NT8 with Rancho is working really well. I've got a ton of charts open, all with composites and long term data...Its using a bit of memory for the data but the CPU is 1/10th of NT7

What's this "Rancho" you are all speaking of?

 

[CanOz]

What's this "Rancho" you are all speaking of?

Its just a suite of volume profile tools.

RanchoDinero

They're really well coded, by an ex-Microsoft engineer.

 

[ThingyMajiggy]

Its just a suite of volume profile tools.

RanchoDinero

They're really well coded, by an ex-Microsoft engineer.

Ahh I see

 

[fiftyeight]

That would be fantastic! Will say goodbye to NT for good then.

Standard, finally make the leap and purchase NT to swap to Multi a few weeks later.

On site at the moment but I am going to investigate JPX

Did you actually trial this option?

 

[shodd]

Standard, finally make the leap and purchase NT to swap to Multi a few weeks later.

On site at the moment but I am going to investigate JPX

Did you actually trial this option?

I did - bought a months worth of data to see if I could convert it myself in to a format that NT would accept. Turns out I'm no data wizard. I could get OHLC info but the volume stuff just didn't work. I don't know why, I'm guessing I probably could have figured it out but I thought it faster to proceed with the jump to Multi.

I can empathise with the reluctance to move platforms after paying for NT. But at the end of the day having the right access to this contract was more important.

 

[fiftyeight]

I can empathise with the reluctance to move platforms after paying for NT. But at the end of the day having the right access to this contract was more important.

Haha have not even had a good chance at using yet

When I questioned NT about this they did ask if I would like to vote for getting historical data. Maybe they are working on something?

 

[fiftyeight]

Random thought bubble.

At the gym this morning and every single person has earphones of some description in. When you are out and and about more and more people are wearing some kind of earphones.

If they are much like myself and are listening to music too loud we might see a spike in Noise Induced Deadness. My new devices force me to accept a warning msg if I try listen to music too loud, protecting them selves from future litigation?

Time too look at my first specy biotech play haha?

http://www.fiercebiotech.com/ventur...ch-raises-50-6m-to-further-hearing-loss-drugs

 

[fiftyeight]

Haha one fore cynic

Was short asx200 cash with IG with a stop at 5433.

The bar that took me out was 5432.5

 

[ThingyMajiggy]

Haha one fore cynic

Was short asx200 cash with IG with a stop at 5433.

The bar that took me out was 5432.5

Wonder if its automatic, just put a stop order in, then trade TO the stop, so you make money from these evil naughty CFD providers? If it's so certain that they do it

 

[fiftyeight]

 

[Joules MM1]

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hail 58 :grinsking

 

[fiftyeight]

I have some daily OHLC and volume data for the NKY (Index)

I assume this would be a close enough approximation for the associated Future Contracts to do some simple Excel stuff or am I missing something?

 

[fiftyeight]

Is this the worlds biggest short squeeze?

Apart from a bit of gold I went cash in my super early on Brexit.

Quite happy to sit on the sidelines at the moment. Maybe buy some Sep put options..... I think. Maybe I should figure out options first