Fake News - Global Warming Consensus

Don't know the source, but this is on the money

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To all the school kids going on "strike" for Climate Change.

You are the first generation who have required air-conditioning in every classroom.

You want TV in every room and your classes are all computerised.

You spend all day and night on electronic devices.

More than ever, you don't walk or ride bikes to school but arrive in caravans of private cars that choke suburban roads and worsen rush hour traffic.

You are the biggest consumers of manufactured goods ever and update perfectly good expensive luxury items to stay trendy.

Your entertainment comes from electric devices.

Furthermore, the people driving your protests are the same people who insist on artificially inflating the population growth through immigration, which increases the need for energy, manufacturing and transport.

The more people we have, the more forest and bushland we clear and more of the environment is destroyed.

How about this...

Tell your teachers to switch off the air-con.
Walk or ride to school.

Switch off your devices and read a book.

Make a sandwich instead of buying manufactured fast food.

No, none of this will happen because you are selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds, inspired by the adults around you who crave a feeling of having a "noble cause" while they indulge themselves in Western luxury and unprecedented quality of life.”

Wake up, grow up and shut up until you are sure of the facts before protesting.

wayneL said:

Don't know the source, but this is on the money

*****

To all the school kids going on "strike" for Climate Change.

You are the first generation who have required air-conditioning in every classroom.

You want TV in every room and your classes are all computerised.

You spend all day and night on electronic devices.

More than ever, you don't walk or ride bikes to school but arrive in caravans of private cars that choke suburban roads and worsen rush hour traffic.

You are the biggest consumers of manufactured goods ever and update perfectly good expensive luxury items to stay trendy.

Your entertainment comes from electric devices.

Furthermore, the people driving your protests are the same people who insist on artificially inflating the population growth through immigration, which increases the need for energy, manufacturing and transport.

The more people we have, the more forest and bushland we clear and more of the environment is destroyed.

How about this...

Tell your teachers to switch off the air-con.
Walk or ride to school.

Switch off your devices and read a book.

Make a sandwich instead of buying manufactured fast food.

No, none of this will happen because you are selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds, inspired by the adults around you who crave a feeling of having a "noble cause" while they indulge themselves in Western luxury and unprecedented quality of life.”

Wake up, grow up and shut up until you are sure of the facts before protesting.

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The most compelling evidence global warning is a hoax I've seen. Peer reviewed Wayne?

wayneL said:

inspired by the adults around you who crave a feeling of having a "noble cause" while they indulge themselves in Western luxury and unprecedented quality of life.”

Wake up, grow up and shut up until you are sure of the facts before protesting.

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But WayneL, they are sure of the facts, their teacher told them so! Why even the very little boy was finally able to get the word 'toxic' out after a bit of effort! Such a hard word for a little boy, bet he had never heard that from his mumndad.

I did return a few years ago to visit the primary school I attended, reason being the opening of the time capsule which was buried when I was there.

Outside looked much the same but as for the insides, just wow....

So far as energy consuming devices are concerned, back when I was a kid there was lighting and heating in every classroom plus there was a film projector occasionally set up in an open area. That was it.

Modern schools have electricity and electronics everywhere in comparison.

Transport back then was catch the bus or walk. Bus cost 20c by the way.

These days kids being driven to school is common and walking is rare indeed.

Darc Knight said:

The most compelling evidence global warning is a hoax I've seen. Peer reviewed Wayne?

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Whoosh

Way to miss the point bro

Ah Wayne... Back to your old faithful attack lines on CC.

You cannot/will not/dare not dispute the reality of what is happening to the climate around the world. The relentless advance of temperatures, the consequent bushfires, the weather extremes, the coral bleaching, the fast melting ice packs, the flooding islands and cities.

You can't find any suggestion of a reasonable excuse for these relentless temperature increases that could offer a way down again in the near future - and isn't to do with the effects of Greenhouse Gas emissions which are now being super charged by us.

And so... The attack has to be on the people protesting because they are not living in caves THEY are responsible for all this global warming. They have to STFU until they are living in proper little caves and then of course they are just crazies aren't they ?

I agree that a full on approach to tackling CC would involve a widespread reduction in energy use, being more efficient and living simpler lives amongst a hundred other changes.

But first Wayne we have to recognise the reality of the problem, call the situation for what it is - a climate emergency - and have a whole of society approach.

This would be a far more constructive approach.

Oh mate, that is just illogical, what an own goal from your side of pompous virtue signallers

I can't argue with such gross stupidity .

You're good Wayne, you're good! Your post doesn't make sense but it made me laugh.

Darc Knight said:

You're good Wayne, you're good! Your post doesn't make sense but it made me laugh.

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I always aim to please mate

Here's the thing, if we are going to adhere to the precautionary principle, then each individual should reduce their emmisions

I can tell you that for at least 20 years, mrs and I have done so, apart from burning sh1tloads of coke and lpg in my business, our domestic footprint, both in terms of co2 and general waste and pollution is way smaller than average.

Despite basilios propensity to disparage all who differ from his specific (political) podition I guarantee we would leaner on the environment than her and 99% of alarmists.

In fact, our own Mr Plod (despite some ludicrous views) is the only greenie I know who lives what he preaches.

Hope that clarifies

wayneL said:

Don't know the source, but this is on the money

*****

To all the school kids going on "strike" for Climate Change.

You are the first generation who have required air-conditioning in every classroom.

You want TV in every room and your classes are all computerised.

You spend all day and night on electronic devices.

More than ever, you don't walk or ride bikes to school but arrive in caravans of private cars that choke suburban roads and worsen rush hour traffic.

You are the biggest consumers of manufactured goods ever and update perfectly good expensive luxury items to stay trendy.

Your entertainment comes from electric devices.

Furthermore, the people driving your protests are the same people who insist on artificially inflating the population growth through immigration, which increases the need for energy, manufacturing and transport.

The more people we have, the more forest and bushland we clear and more of the environment is destroyed.

How about this...

Tell your teachers to switch off the air-con.
Walk or ride to school.

Switch off your devices and read a book.

Make a sandwich instead of buying manufactured fast food.

No, none of this will happen because you are selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little turds, inspired by the adults around you who crave a feeling of having a "noble cause" while they indulge themselves in Western luxury and unprecedented quality of life.”

Wake up, grow up and shut up until you are sure of the facts before protesting.

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I always knew it's those little bastards fault.

Pretending to be small, can't vote, can't sign contracts or have money. Always out "learning", in air-conditioned classroom! Reading on them fancy tablets, playing games and reaching around the world!

wayneL said:

Don't know the source, but this is on the money

*****

To all the school kids going on "strike" for Climate Change.

You are the first generation who have required air-conditioning in every classroom.

.......

Wake up, grow up and shut up until you are sure of the facts before protesting.

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It's okay Junior, I know you guys can't intellectually justify the hypocrisy

wayneL said:

It's okay Junior, I know you guys can't intellectually justify the hypocrisy

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Aren't your anger at today's spoilt kids based on the assumption that all electricity usage must come from dirty fossil?

Beside private jets, it's possible for electricity to be generated from cleaner, renewal sources right? Isn't that what those kids are demanding? Being able to use the gadgets and modern living standard while breathing clean air at the same time?

luutzu said:

Beside private jets, it's possible for electricity to be generated from cleaner, renewal sources right? Isn't that what those kids are demanding? Being able to use the gadgets and modern living standard while breathing clean air at the same time?

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Far, FAR too realistic for this thread Luutzu. Please remember this thread is about vehemantly denying that there is any climate change problem to be concerned about and that the millions of people who do care are either hypocrites, stooges or just trying to keep their snouts in the gravy trough.

wayneL said:

I always aim to please mate

Here's the thing, if we are going to adhere to the precautionary principle, then each individual should reduce their emmisions

I can tell you that for at least 20 years, mrs and I have done so, apart from burning sh1tloads of coke and lpg in my business, our domestic footprint, both in terms of co2 and general waste and pollution is way smaller than average.

Despite basilios propensity to disparage all who differ from his specific (political) podition I guarantee we would leaner on the environment than her and 99% of alarmists.

In fact, our own Mr Plod (despite some ludicrous views) is the only greenie I know who lives what he preaches.

Hope that clarifies

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@wayneL nailed it..
"each individual should reduce their emissions"

Decision Making
For most of our lives, many of us spend our time listening to someone else feed us information and when it comes time to take responsibility for our decision making, we are constantly waiting for someone else to tell us what to do or checking to see what others are doing.

Personal Responsibility
There are so many that refuse to take responsibility when things go wrong, the problem is always caused by someone or something else.

Skate.

Schedule the school demonstrations on a Saturday morning, and see how many turn up.

They didn't look like the science geeks to me. But clearly well rehearsed, with pat responses to every question

I'm just here for the comedy

Lets be clear Skate. Addressing CC is a huge problem which will require concerted action across the whole world. So while personal actions are important the big decisions about government policies, policies to change energy sources, decisions to address the causes and effects of CC have to be made at government and industry levels. Personal actions won't cut it.

As far as decision making. Most of us have to rely on people we trust who are experts in a field to advise us on the most likely causes and outcomes of what we intend to do. For example we have engineers who design and build dams, bridges and planes and we trust them to make sure they hold water and fly properly.

Similarly we have thousands of climate scientists, biologists, glaciologists and so on who have the best knowledge of what is happening to our climate and the dangers we are creating.
Against this body of knowledge we have a groups of shills and their blind supporters who have been in the pay of the fossil fuel industry to muddy the waters on CC. Take your pick of who to believe.

When experts have reason to be biased, we should be sceptical of their claims.

Climate scientists have a bias to make their predictions and claims as extreme and disastrous as possible.

This really should be obvious.

To date, virtually every prediction climate scientists have made which has had time to play out as turned out to be far more extreme than the reality. This is an extremely consistent, reliable pattern. Despite this, the scientifically illiterate masses blindly believe the claims and predictions, until they turn out to be wrong, get swept under the rug and forgotten, and replaced by new ones which are then believed.

It's a fascinating world.

Although I have studied climate, I am not primarily a climate scientist, but I am a scientist (a biologist). My work has revolved around modelling potential species distributions depending on environmental conditions, primarily climate. This means I have worked along with climate scientists (my work directly relates to theirs, but I don't do that side of it myself). I have seen how incredibly blatant the whole farce is, working directly with climate scientists. I eventually threw my science career in, because I saw that to get anywhere in science you needed to make up extreme claims to justify your position. If I said everything was fine, don't worry, there's nothing much interesting going on, I'd get nowhere. If I make up some extreme version of the story, people would pay attention, I'd get funding, and so on. I was not interested in playing that game, I saw the direction science as a whole was taking (away from science and towards politics/money) and wanted no part in it. I understand the way the whole thing works.

If you believe the politics, er, 'science', you're being mislead.

Before anyone calls me a 'climate denier' (sic), I fully acknowledge that we are interacting with the climate. This is obvious. But our impact is massively overstated (if you actually want to take the time to study climate science to any extent rather than just blindly believing propaganda, this is completely obvious). The climate is still within normal, natural limits, the rate of change is not unusual (even climate scientists unanimously agree on this! They only say otherwise out of context!). If humans had never done anything, climate change would still happen, it always happens, far greater extremes and rates of change than we've seen in modern human history are common place in natural climate change. To give a tangible example, natural climate change just in the last 100,000 years (ignoring the period where humans had any relevance to anything because we were little more than a few monkeys hitting each other with sticks), climate change was extreme enough to cause sea levels to rise and fall so much that you could walk from Australia to PNG, and then the area flooded again, then dried out again, back and forth many times. The same thing happened with the UK and mainland Europe, etc etc around the world.

If anything like that happened now it would be considered utterly extreme, catastrophic climate change. This is just business as usual for the climate, as it always has been. It will happen with or without us. And yes, it will be catastrophic because we build our cities around coasts, set up our cities and agricultural infrastructure according to the assumption the climate will be static. But while we may make it zig rather than zag, the climate will change. If nothing we had ever done actually influenced the climate, these things would still happen, and would still be catastrophic. If we stopped all impact on the climate yesterday, it would still happen.

Literally none of the above is in any way factually ambiguous. It is all solid fact, tangibly, obviously so.

Actually climate scientists IPCC were found to be under not over in their predictions.

It's happening a bit faster than they thought, especially the north pole melt.
Few records broken in Queensland recently.

Did you read the graphs Smurf posted?
Refer is climate change becoming unstoppable thread. I am not sure how you can blame the change on natural causes especially since the Sun is dimming at present, we should be entering an ice age.