Examples of stupidity of government at all levels

[sptrawler]

And Mr sp one of the scum bag oxygen thieves was already out on bail. and of course just for good measure had a rap sheet almost as long as his arm.
And another was lt out on bail today also.
I would have thought chained to a piece of granite somewhere without shade would be appropriate.

Obviously they are going to hell with tge skills shortage, we need skilled armed robbers, prepared to go go the extra yard.

 

[farmerge]

Obviously they are going to hell with tge skills shortage, we need skilled armed robbers, prepared to go go the extra yard.

Appears to be importing them from Africa. No skills needed just stick a knife through the heart.

 

[mullokintyre]

The seeley group , which produces both gas appliances and airconditoners, are closing a factory in Albury because of the gas policies of Victoria.
From Australian manufacturing

Air cooling and heating manufacturer Seeley International has announced is to close its Albury, NSW plant and consolidation of operations in Adelaide, blaming Victoria’s Gas Substitution Pathway for the loss of 125 jobs.

The company manufactures Braemar gas appliances in Albury and air cooling systems in Adelaide, with a question mark having been thrown over Braemar’s future with the Pathway’s phase out of new gas connections for new dwellings, apartment buildings, and residential subdivisions.

Group Managing Director Jon Seeley said the Albury plant would close by December, 2025 with the Pathway a major factor in the closure.

Seeley said: “The consolidation of our Australian manufacturing operations is a difficult but necessary decision to ensure the economic sustainability of our business.

“The accelerated disruption to our industry caused by the Victorian Government’s inexcusable anti-gas obsession, and using taxpayers’ money to pay consumers to replace Australian-made gas heaters with imported reverse cycle systems, is extremely detrimental.

“This policy will only increase demand on an already overloaded, coal-fired electricity grid and drive emissions up, not down.’’

Late last month Seeley said it would expand its Adelaide air conditioning manufacturing operations, but made no mention of the future of the Albury plant.

“We believe in the importance of gas in the clean energy transition and recognise the need to plot a sensible path away from fossil fuels, including natural gas.

“But a premature exit from gas, without viable alternatives and credible solutions, is entirely reckless and will end up costing consumers the most.”

Seeley also mentioned the Federal Governments changes to workplace laws in relation to casual employment.
But the casuals are required in different seasons in each state.
The Adelaide and Albury factories both employed significant numbers of casuals because of the seasonality of the work.
More Air conditioners sold in the warmer months means more casuals in those months in Adelaide, while more gas heaters are sold in Winter which means more casuals in Winter in Albury.
The new laws means that both plants would have to hire the casuals as permanents, even if they are only required for 4 to six months of the year.
So it made sense to accomodate both factories in Adelaide, where gas appliances are still welcomed, and the once casuals will be moved between the two production lines.
Bad luck for the employment figures in Albury, good luck for those in Adelaide.
Mick

 

[mullokintyre]

Had a lunch today with a few blokes, one of whom runs a reasonably large pub.
he was telling us that the Victorian government, via the EPA, has decided that the exaust flues over commercial cooking have to be cleaned out every 4 months.
For years, they were required to follow AS 185-2012 which stated that the flues need to be cleaned a minimum of once per year.
They get inpsected by the EPA to ensure that they have records of an approved cleaning organisation having done the job.
When the last inspector came out, Andy asked the bloke what studies were done that now required quarterly cleans in Victoria.
Of course the inspector bloke had no idea, he was just an inspector.
He contacted the EPA to ask for the information, but nothing has been forthcoming.
Each cleaning costs him around $3,500 per time.
So for reasons unknown, that particular expense has gone from $3,500 per year tp to $14,000 per year.
And people wonder why inflation is ruining their lives.

Mick

 

[Smurf1976]

When the last inspector came out, Andy asked the bloke what studies were done that now required quarterly cleans in Victoria.

Seems like a rather strange thing for the EPA to be involved with in the first place.

If not cleaned then there might be issues with fire safety if grease builds up, and plausibly issues with hygiene although that seems fairly unlikely, but what's the threat to the environment?

 

[farmerge]

Seems like a rather strange thing for the EPA to be involved with in the first place.

If not cleaned then there might be issues with fire safety if grease builds up, and plausibly issues with hygiene although that seems fairly unlikely, but what's the threat to the environment?

Only person who could answer is the bod who dreamt up the quarterly inspections!!!!

 

[investor13]

Appears to be importing them from Africa. No skills needed just stick a knife through the heart.

The African could be a butcher in his previous country. It must be a major trade over there as the fondness of knives seems to be popular

 

[mullokintyre]

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Seems like a rather strange thing for the EPA to be involved with in the first place.

If not cleaned then there might be issues with fire safety if grease builds up, and plausibly issues with hygiene although that seems fairly unlikely, but what's the threat to the environment?

If the EPA provided stats on how many fires occurred in such filters they might have a case.
There is talk of forcing the Govt to provide the background data via FOI similar to the VCAT decision forcing the govt to release documents about health dept decisions on the closure of playgrounds, some golf courses etc during pandemic. ( see Evil Murdoch Press )
mick'

 

[moXJO]

Had a lunch today with a few blokes, one of whom runs a reasonably large pub.
he was telling us that the Victorian government, via the EPA, has decided that the exaust flues over commercial cooking have to be cleaned out every 4 months.
For years, they were required to follow AS 185-2012 which stated that the flues need to be cleaned a minimum of once per year.
They get inpsected by the EPA to ensure that they have records of an approved cleaning organisation having done the job.
When the last inspector came out, Andy asked the bloke what studies were done that now required quarterly cleans in Victoria.
Of course the inspector bloke had no idea, he was just an inspector.
He contacted the EPA to ask for the information, but nothing has been forthcoming.
Each cleaning costs him around $3,500 per time.
So for reasons unknown, that particular expense has gone from $3,500 per year tp to $14,000 per year.
And people wonder why inflation is ruining their lives.

Mick

Do you mean the filters or the entire duct work?

 

[Smurf1976]

As a technicality, does cleaning an exhaust flue in Victoria require a license to do so?

They get inpsected by the EPA to ensure that they have records of an approved cleaning organisation having done the job.

Emphasis mine.

I'd have thought it'd be an unlicensed task similar to, say, painting that whilst a trade isn't illegal for anyone to do,

 

[farmerge]

As a technicality, does cleaning an exhaust flue in Victoria require a license to do so?



Emphasis mine.

I'd have thought it'd be an unlicensed task similar to, say, painting that whilst a trade isn't illegal for anyone to do,

@Smurf1976 I suppose it boils down to expertise on how to do or go about the job.
As an example. I have just had a partial new roof installed on the machinery shed that was damaged in the January tornado.
I could have undertaken the job and taken a lot longer to it.
But the father and son team had it done in 3 days.
Easy for them, with the right gear and expertise.

 

[mullokintyre]

yeah, that seems about right.
Would have been nice to see figures on just how many have been started.
Mick

 

[basilio]

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yeah, that seems about right.
Would have been nice to see figures on just how many have been started.
Mick

Indeed. It would be good to see the whole picture wouldn't it ? Just an overview ? Perhaps the land they have bought. Contacts entered into. Progress made on a range of fronts ? Does the article go into any of that detail ?

It might of course but given that what counts these does is the "gotcha" headline who knows/cares.

 

[basilio]

Check this out for stupidity fails on many levels. There is much more in the rest of the story.

Council forgets to tell driver it towed car away – then demands year’s storage fees​

Madeleine Ruse reported her car as stolen only to find out 12 months later it had been moved by Sheffield council

Anna Tims
Wed 5 Jun 2024 23.29 AESTLast modified on Thu 6 Jun 2024 05.55 AEST


A woman was left without her car for a year because a council forgot to inform her it had been towed away due to roadworks.
Madeleine Ruse, 22, assumed her 15-year-old Citroën had been stolen when she discovered it was missing from its usual parking space in February 2023. She reported it to the police and received a payout from her insurer.

Twelve months later, a letter from Sheffield city council notified her that her car had been removed for contravening temporary parking restrictions. She was told that the vehicle would be destroyed if she did not collect it within two days and pay a fine and charges, including a £12-a-day storage fee. Storage costs for the year amounted to nearly £4,400.

South Yorkshire police admitted they had been alerted by the council that the car had been removed in case it was reported missing. However, staff failed to inform Ruse when she reported it as stolen.

Council forgets to tell driver it towed car away – then demands year’s storage fees

Madeleine Ruse reported her car as stolen only to find out 12 months later it had been moved by Sheffield council

www.theguardian.com

 

[farmerge]

Check this out for stupidity fails on many levels. There is much more in the rest of the story.

Council forgets to tell driver it towed car away – then demands year’s storage fees​

Madeleine Ruse reported her car as stolen only to find out 12 months later it had been moved by Sheffield council

Anna Tims
Wed 5 Jun 2024 23.29 AESTLast modified on Thu 6 Jun 2024 05.55 AEST


A woman was left without her car for a year because a council forgot to inform her it had been towed away due to roadworks.
Madeleine Ruse, 22, assumed her 15-year-old Citroën had been stolen when she discovered it was missing from its usual parking space in February 2023. She reported it to the police and received a payout from her insurer.

Twelve months later, a letter from Sheffield city council notified her that her car had been removed for contravening temporary parking restrictions. She was told that the vehicle would be destroyed if she did not collect it within two days and pay a fine and charges, including a £12-a-day storage fee. Storage costs for the year amounted to nearly £4,400.

South Yorkshire police admitted they had been alerted by the council that the car had been removed in case it was reported missing. However, staff failed to inform Ruse when she reported it as stolen.

Council forgets to tell driver it towed car away – then demands year’s storage fees

Madeleine Ruse reported her car as stolen only to find out 12 months later it had been moved by Sheffield council

www.theguardian.com

@basilio Hmm just wondering if a council bludger was after a cheap car.
Smells a bit stinky.

 

[basilio]

@basilio Hmm just wondering if a council bludger was after a cheap car.
Smells a bit stinky.

Nah. If you read the story the car was wrecked through the whole process.

But hell so many snafus in that story.

 

[farmerge]

Nah. If you read the story the car was wrecked through the whole process.

But hell so many snafus in that story.

Still a story that stinks though.

 

[mullokintyre]

This viedo presentation was so good I wanted to get and join the upper echelons of the Public Service.
Especially when I looked at the salaries.
Gag.
Mick