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I think that's all the stuff we DON'T know and weren't told and the reason Hird laid down.
All this bull about accepting guilt for the good of the club is equally unbelievable.
Yes, either illegal or questionable. Probably questionable.
I can't imagine them not keeping some sort of records. If they did keep records, then they were shredded in a hurry soon after the scandal hit - that's disreputable. If they didn't keep records, they were taking huge risks with the players' health - that's disreputable. No way around it. Too bloody bad is all I can say. If it was my team I wouldn't be complaining about fines or sanctions.
May be still in the denial and anger stages. Give him time and he may (reluctantly) come to accept that what Essendon did was actually wrong.
Like everyone, you're judging this on a void of facts. 'I think it was him', and 'I think', don't seem admissible in a court of law.Essendon admitted some players were injected with a substance they don't know what - the one sourced from Mexico. Thompson on Footy Classified looked upset with the club more than anything. Matthew Lloyd some weeks ago made the comment (I think it was him) that after the ASADA interviews McVeigh (I think) came away with a different attitude. More went on than he realised. Dank doesn't want to say anything for some reason.
Miss, you're assuming it's like he was the only one making any decisions here. It might have been 30 years ago when we had captain coaches but now we have departments full of people in hierarchies making board level decisions about who puts on what coloured undies for an away match. You would remember that, surely? Do you remember when you played under a captain coach?You know what I think the root of the problem at Essendon was? Putting in as senior coach someone who had no coaching experience just because he was the golden haired boy/club hero. He may have been a good player, he may be a smart guy but he had never coached before in any capacity and he was made senior coach of one of our the teams at the elite level of Australian Rules football.
Like everyone, you're judging this on a void of facts. 'I think it was him', and 'I think', don't seem admissible in a court of law.
And, you don't know what someone else doesn't know what could have been sourced from Mexico. Mexico makes some fine pharmaceuticals!
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Miss, you're assuming it's like he was the only one making any decisions here. It might have been 30 years ago when we had captain coaches but now we have departments full of people in hierarchies making board level decisions about who puts on what coloured undies for an away match. You would remember that, surely? Do you remember when you played under a captain coach?
I watched it. There's still too many holes. I was hoping the hole filling would be positive for Essendon, of course. It hasn't been.kennas: It is worthwhile watching Footy Classified with the Mark Thompson interview. You'll get some of the admissions from there instead of relying on my memory about who actually said it.
I watched it. There's still too many holes. I was hoping the hole filling would be positive for Essendon, of course. It hasn't been.
I find it incomprehensible that punishments have been handed out without Dank's testimony. There has been so much at stake and yet, the man who actually committed the assumed crimes, has not been investigated. Surely, with this level of financial and personal loss, the key witness ought to have been examined.
I watched it. There's still too many holes. I was hoping the hole filling would be positive for Essendon, of course. It hasn't been.
I find it incomprehensible that punishments have been handed out without Dank's testimony. There has been so much at stake and yet, the man who actually committed the assumed crimes, has not been investigated. Surely, with this level of financial and personal loss, the key witness ought to have been examined.
I watched it. There's still too many holes. I was hoping the hole filling would be positive for Essendon, of course. It hasn't been.
I find it incomprehensible that punishments have been handed out without Dank's testimony. There has been so much at stake and yet, the man who actually committed the assumed crimes, has not been investigated. Surely, with this level of financial and personal loss, the key witness ought to have been examined.
n a misguided attempt to protect his brand, James Hird insists on denying his responsibility as senior coach for the doping scandal besetting his club, so bringing the whole game into disrepute, writes Wayne Goldsmith.
Every club has a code of conduct (flexible).
They all have rules of behaviour (bendable).
And they all have mission statements, vision statements, team values, team trademarks and team policies (all negotiable).
But there is one rule - one overriding law that every person in every AFL team knows and understands and cannot deny - that is unbreakable.
No-one can do anything in an AFL football department that directly affects or involves the players without the full knowledge and approval of the senior coach.
The senior coach in an AFL club has absolute power and total responsibility for all aspects of training and playing, and that includes the team's sports science and sports medicine program (e.g. player nutrition and supplement use).
Anyone who has any connection with AFL - or for that matter, professional football - knows that the rule applies to everyone, every situation, every aspect of preparation and performance - and all the time.
Wayne Goldsmith sums it up beautifully
Passing the buck at Essendon
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-27/goldsmith-passing-the-buck-at-essendon/4914592
Harvey, then he stays as another senior assistant.Who would you like to see as Essendon coach until Hirdy gets back?
Daniher, Harvey, Sheedy, O'Donnell?
Duckman
Harvey, then he stays as another senior assistant.
I was thinking Bailey, but adding tanking to doping probably doesn't look so cool.
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Good article this:
Essendon, and the push to bring down the gods of our secular religion
THIS year has seen further demonstration of the strange phenomenon of sport as religion. In question is the location of encounters with the sacred in the modern secular world.
When is it that most Australians are drawn out of their profane lives to become engaged in something more inspiring than the humdrum everyday; when the tepid blood suddenly begins to surge; when the passion barometer rises, moved by scintillating greatness, or dark iniquity; and even when there is some absurd sense that higher forces are at work, guiding events?
The Essendon Football Club drugs scandal has been the lead case, and it provides illuminating clues to the nature of secular religion in Australia today. Its status as the archetypal story of the year is evidenced in its monopolising front and back pages of newspapers over seven months, even in Sydney during its climax in August; and in its dominance of the seven weekly television football chat shows in Melbourne, and likewise for talkback radio.
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After holding his hands for about 6 years we get him fit and playing OK and trade him to Freeo. One of Essendon's worst mistakes. Shocking.
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