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Hird announced as Essendon head coach, speculation Bomber Thompson will join as Director of Coaching...
 
No comment from the die hards yet.

Hird announced as Essendon head coach, speculation Bomber Thompson will join as Director of Coaching...

Haven't spent much time on ASF due to the craziness of "life" at present.

But if the rumours are true - I'm happy. Some solid and experienced heads will join Hirdy. Potentially Thompson and Wellman.

Very happy with that coaching mix. (They still need a player cleanout - Dyson, Davey etc)

Duckman
 
I'm happy. I suspect Bomber will join. If not he would have come out with a stronger statement saying he was staying. Unless he's fishing for a intra contract pay rise. Great move for the Dons I reckon.
 
Bombers had their Best and Fairest last night.

I have no problems with Watson picking up his second medal in a row and I can also see how Hocking polled well. He played very well in the first half of the season when the rest of the team struggled and is a much improved player IMO.

But for the life of me I cannot understand how Winderlich is voted our 3rd best player. :eek:Can someone that doesn't support Essendon offer an opinion on this? Maybe I'm just too hard on him, but I thought he was lucky to hold his spot for large chunks of last year. :eek:

Maybe it is just a fact of life that when your team comes 3rd last on the ladder, it indictates a lack of players playing consistently well. :(:(

Duckman
 
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Hird announced as Essendon head coach, speculation Bomber Thompson will join as Director of Coaching...

Does anyone know if he can actually coach?:p::D

Not sure if picking a guy who has been out of footy for a while and has no coaching experience is a good choice, being a legend of the club and a great player doesn't mean he will actually be a good coach. I also wonder how much his heart will be in it if they have another year like last season, he hasn't been interested in coaching before (ie assistants roles etc) so have to wonder about his passion for it - at least with Voss, Buckley they signaled their intentions to coach early on.

Will be interesting to see if he tries to build a team or just goes all out for glory like Voss did.
 
Does anyone know if he can actually coach?:p::D
I can't think of anything that James Hird has done that hasn't been a class act. We'll see, but if his other experiences in life are anything to go by he'll be the goods.

Not sure if picking a guy who has been out of footy for a while and has no coaching experience is a good choice, being a legend of the club and a great player doesn't mean he will actually be a good coach. I also wonder how much his heart will be in it if they have another year like last season, he hasn't been interested in coaching before (ie assistants roles etc) so have to wonder about his passion for it - at least with Voss, Buckley they signaled their intentions to coach early on.

Anybody that has seen the press conference since James has taken the reins would rest assured that he has the passion and desire to coach Essendon. He gave a wonderful speech at the B&F about whether Essendon was truely a great football club and what it needs to do to get there. Very passionate and uniting.

Will be interesting to see if he tries to build a team or just goes all out for glory like Voss did.

His media releases give a few clues. I don't think he'll be a huge one for trading as he is realistic about where the Bombers are at. It is completely different to Vossy. Voss still had quality, proven players like Black, Power, Brown, Merritt, and Rich to base his team around. Hirdy has already come out and said that he is taking over the Bombers with them being close to "rock bottom".

He has indicated that ball skills, hardness at the football and overall fitness will be his priority. Now I know that those three things would be high on the agenda of all 16 coaches in the AFL - however, as an Essendon supporter I would suggest those are three key areas that we are WELL BELOW the standard required of a quality AFL team. I'm happy for him to target that.

Duckman
 
There is a greater need to have served an apprenticeship these days compared to just a few years ago. Not long ago we had Captain Coaches. I thought Watson could have done it, so I reserve my believe that Hird can. Needs Bomber there too I think. And a few good players!
 
Hird must have had an issue with O'Donnell. I thought he was a pretty well respected Assistant, and has Essendon in the veins....Unusual.
 
Huge wrap for Hird as player and leader, but let's face it, he's on trainer wheels as a coach.

It's an artificial coaching structure, with potential to cause a lot of bitterness and division down the track, along with Hird's potential estrangement from the club as with Bartlett at Richmond.

James Hird might be more value to the club as an Eddie McGuire style 'el supremo' managerial and public relations man.
 
It's an artificial coaching structure, with potential to cause a lot of bitterness and division down the track, along with Hird's potential estrangement from the club as with Bartlett at Richmond.

A little over the top Logique? While anything is possible I think comparisons with Bartlett's fiasco is a long way off. :D James is surrounding himself with a very capable team. Richmond's coaching history is a million miles away from the Bombers.

James Hird might be more value to the club as an Eddie McGuire style 'el supremo' managerial and public relations man.

I know James is untried, but again, it's a huge stretch Logique to compare one of the games greats to a journalist, football administrator and media spin mogul. Everything James has achieved has been setup by what he's done on the field - everything Eddie has achieved has been off the field.

I admire Eddie. I think he's been a wonderful advocate for the Collingwood football club and the AFL (when it also benefitted Collingwood) but I don't think Jimmy is another Eddie.

Good to see a couple of changes in the trade. Firstly we've delisted Laycock - good. Also good to see that we haven't traded Houli. If Richmond want to make sure of him they'll have to use a draft pick to get him. Potentially to the benefit of the Bombers.

On final thing - it gives me the @@@@'s when players throw a dummy spit going into the draft. It has happened 2 years in a row now - both players wanting to get to Collingwood. Last year Ball refused to talk to opposition clubs and this year Tarrant said "Collingwood or I retire". I'm not sure a way around it but they are treating the draft as a joke.

Duckman
 
Hi All

Well the 2011 season draw is out. If we thought the 2010 draw was difficult - the 2011 is possibly worse!

Mark Robinson has unofficially given the Bombers the worst draw again.

Good luck James.

Duckman
 
Hi All

Well the 2011 season draw is out. If we thought the 2010 draw was difficult - the 2011 is possibly worse!

Mark Robinson has unofficially given the Bombers the worst draw again.

Duckman

Yes, last game in the season is a bye. Collingwood seem to have done well though, typical.
 
Bombers supporters thought 2006 was bad!!! Look out 2010!!! :mad:

With the slim chance of finals now fully evaporated, the Bombers can start making some serious changes.

With reckless abandon I'd make the following moves:

1. For the rest of the year play Houli and give him a decent chance to find his feet.

2. Start preparing Ricky Dyson for life after football. He has minimal ability and impact on a game after being around the AFL for over 6 years. Needs to go. While we are at it, may as well pack up Winderlich's locker as well. Same story. These two guys are just stopping the development of players like Howlett, Jetta etc. They are never going to be the players that make the club successful.

3. Play Neagle - Knights sure as hell didn't do much to encourage Lloyd to continue, so he better start developing a full forward quickly. If Neagle doesn't do anything get rid of him at the end of the season - but you have to play him.

4. Our midfield is one dimensional. We are obviously missing Lovatt more than I thought we would. We cannot continue to play Welsh and McVeigh in the centre (some would say the same side). McVeigh has become just another back pocket player - his 2008 form has gone, possibly never to be seen again. As for Welsh - I never agreed with the decision to make him VC. We need some freshness and spark in the midfield. I'd play Zaharakis and Reimers in midfield roles. Watson, Prismall, Stanton, and Hocking all have a similar "feel" about them.

5. I'd give Dempsey a licence to follow the footy and play more on the ball.

6. Drop Ryder. The only reason Hille isn't being dropped is benefit of the doubt after his injury last year. Can someone explain how Hille can get outmarked by Luke Ball? :confused: Ryder has also been woeful to date. Bring Laycock in and play him in the forward line. Let Ryder find some form in the two's and make him realise he isn't an automatic starter.

7. Do something about the game plan. PLEASE!! Is anyone else sick of watching 2 foot handpasses going backwards to a person in a worse position?

8. Keep playing Melksham, Colyer etc and bring in Long and others ASAP. Give them game time NOW.

9. Play Myers until the end of the season. For a high choice draft pick he's been a disappointment to date. Lets see what happens if he's a regular in the side.

10. Change tackling coaches. Some of the half-assed efforts today were straight out embarrassing. Our desire to put the body on the line was sadly missing.

11. Don't get too attached to Hurley. With performances like that he's a certain starter for the Gold Coast.

More concerning is our attitude. We are playing like a team that doesn't believe in themselves or each other. Morale seems very low. They are not putting in the 1%er's. At least against Geelong and Freo in R1 & 2 they showed some spirit.

Once again I can't help but think that we are no closer to finals success than we were 5 years ago. Where are our Sidebottom's , Pendlebury's, Beams' and Wellingham's?

Duckman

Breaking News

Mr Shuffles has "almost" left the building!!! Hird's done a cleanout and Neagle and Atkinson are joining Houli off our list (although they have offered a rookie spot to Neagle if he improves his conditioning). The imposing duo of Neagle and Gumbleton will never be able to dominate future AFL backlines :rolleyes:

Listed above was my 2010 mid year assessment - and I'm pleased to say they've addressed a few issues and some issues have been taken out of their hands.

With Hird as coach one assumes there will be a "change of direction" with regard to the Game Plan.:D One that suits the players we've got.

My big complaint last year was that we were "going nowhere" from a team/player development viewpoint. The same old players (of the past 3 years) were being rotated in and out of the side. At the end of last year we saw a real injection of some new exciting players.

I'd be looking at delisting Dyson. I don't think he'd make the squad of another AFL side.

Duckman
 
Nice start to 2011. Well done Hirdy.

Easy to see that some of the boys have spent the off season at weight training.

Duckman
 
Nice start to 2011. Well done Hirdy.

Easy to see that some of the boys have spent the off season at weight training.

Duckman
Yeah, was solid.

Good to see them come back against St Kilda. They could have just rolled over but showed some heart.

You're right a couple of the kids look stronger.

Can't be any worse than last year though.
 
Looking OK so far tonight.

Crameri looks a very good rookie.

Heppel a starter at this stage.

A few putting up their hand to put pressure on the average players to perform, or be gone. Haven't had that for a while.
 
Looking OK so far tonight.

Crameri looks a very good rookie.

Heppel a starter at this stage.

A few putting up their hand to put pressure on the average players to perform, or be gone. Haven't had that for a while.

Their defensive efforts have been fantastic.

How good has Jetta looked this pre-season???:eek: I'll be the first to admit that in the past I have questioned his ability to handle the AFL stage, but by the looks of things he now "GETS IT".

Bellchambers played well last night.

Hibberd looks a good pickup for the backline.

Not getting carried away - but considering the past 3 years results it is very, very encouraging.
 
Their defensive efforts have been fantastic.

How good has Jetta looked this pre-season???:eek: I'll be the first to admit that in the past I have questioned his ability to handle the AFL stage, but by the looks of things he now "GETS IT".

Bellchambers played well last night.

Hibberd looks a good pickup for the backline.

Not getting carried away - but considering the past 3 years results it is very, very encouraging.
Yes, still best to be conservative at this early stage.

Myers looks to have stepped up.

Jetta and Davey running around together will be entertaining.

Bellchambers as second ruck to Hille with Ryder somewhere else..??

Crameri should be brought off the rookie list somehow.

Hurley really needs to start doing ... something..

Put Lloyd in a forward pocket and Hird on a back flank and the team's looking OK.
 
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