Touchy.
Dowler is yet to prove himself but has shown some signs this year. Mitch Thorp is a dud and a huge disappointment and will be delisted or traded at the end of this year imo. Don't worry I think there are a couple of duds on Hawthorns list that need to start performing or be moved on.
You can have all the talent in the world but if you're not willing to work hard enough to make the most of that talent you won't be anything more then a bit player.
Neagle reminds me of Laycock, looks good at times but looks disinterested most of the time - neither of them work hard enough imo.
How long then before the heat should be applied to him? My point was that in his current shape & form he's lucky to be getting a game.
I hope he gets a good pre-season under his belt this year and performs next year just for you
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I'm going generalise in some areas here and not all of this is directed at you but the average supporter.
You say Thorpe is a dud.
Have you seen him playing juniors in Tassie? Have you seen him playing for the Box Hill Hawks regularly? Are you aware just how many injuries he has had so far?
Well you club has as have all the other AFL clubs and they can make an informed decision as whether someone is a dud or not, but you or the majority of supporters who call players duds can't, but it doesn't stop them.
Of course they will end up being right a lot of the time because most players don't make the grade and the average year span for a recruit is 4 years.
You can have all the talent in the world but if you're not willing to work hard enough to make the most of that talent you won't be anything more then a bit player.
Neagle reminds me of Laycock, looks good at times but looks disinterested most of the time - neither of them work hard enough imo.
This is mostly true but not always.
Lockett was the laziest player you could see and for most of his career so was fevola but were they bit players? Of course not as they had so much more talent that it made up for their short comings.
I am not disagreeing with you that Neagle has to work harder and can look lazy and sometimes IS lazy but i am aware of his past history and some of the reasons for this so i can make an informed judgement.
Laycock has far less excuses than Neagle but also about half the talent.
How long then before the heat should be applied to him? My point was that in his current shape & form he's lucky to be getting a game.
But that wasn't your point, your point was he was a "serious dud" and you don't know how he gets a game. Very different argument.
He gets long enough for his body to be able to give him a chance to show what he has on a consistent basis or his body gets to the stage where it won't let him play any longer. Considering we have just signed him to a 2 year contract he has at least 2 years.
Recruiters follow these kids sometimes from the age of 12 all the way through and they don't sign or resign duds it's just AFL is a very hard game to succeed in and the majority don't.
If being annoyed by people making broad uninformed statements makes me touchy, then so be it.