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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%

  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%

  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%

  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%

  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%

  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Total voters
    198
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SirRumpole said:
VC will be spewing.
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The “performance pack”, that I turned down because I didn’t think it was worth the extra money actually would have had a higher range than this upgrade.

But, yeah I would have probably upgraded to the extended range if it were available as a stand alone upgrade.

But to be honest I wouldn’t really need the extended range, when with the standard battery you start each day with of 400km+ of range, you simply don’t need it, especially because if you are driving 400km’s you will be passing super chargers any way.
 
Value Collector said:
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I have put a timer on my hot water system to heat in the middle of the day, look at my solar production chart from yesterday in the photo above and you can see the signature of the hot water system operating.
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What software are you using to get that chart VC?

I'd love to be able to see something like that for my solar. Ideally I'd have real time info on my phone that would help me decide when to run the washing machine etc, but I haven't found anything to do this.
 
Ferret said:
What software are you using to get that chart VC?

I'd love to be able to see something like that for my solar. Ideally I'd have real time info on my phone that would help me decide when to run the washing machine etc, but I haven't found anything to do this.
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My system uses enphase micro invertors, it comes with monitoring software that you can access via an app or login to the website
 
Ferret said:
Thanks VC. Looks like I'll have to wait until an upgrade is due.
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A good thing about the micro inverters is you can add them to your existing system if you ever want to add some panels.

Each panel has its own mini inverter, so you don’t have to install a whole new system, you could just add some extra panels.
 
please excuse my repeated line of arguement ;
Here we are wanting to tap the U.S stategic oil reserve to protect our National security; whilst at the same time those that project this policy are the same people that suggest electric vehicles are the death of the 'Aussie Weekend ': while every Automobile Manufacturer is busy developing electric vehicles that would give us protection to a degree in regard our reliance on oil.
Foresight anyone?
 
An actual road tested review on the Tesla 3, the part I found interesting was the fuel(electricity) consumption.
https://www.news.com.au/technology/...s/news-story/b4249d02e7962ff4556ffbadce1c422c
From the article:
The Model 3’s claimed 460 kilometre range can receive a 270km boost in 30 minutes at Supercharger stations, with charging rates slowing as the 50kWh battery nears capacity. Our test example took on more than 150km in around 20 minutes at a cost of $8.82, or $0.42 per kWh
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Importantly, the Model 3 is cheaper to run than rivals. BMW’s $70,900 330i sedan uses 6.4L/100km of premium unleaded, with 150km of range costing about $14 at the bowser, or about $5 more than the Tesla.

If you take a car with a smaller engine than a Beemer 330, the difference in running costs would be marginal, I expected a much larger difference.
 
Knobby22 said:
Nice looking car, hard to go past the Camry Hybrid though in our market.
https://www.toyota.com/camryhybrid/
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I think the "problem" with the Camry hybrid is that it has a minimal battery only range.
I gather the VW has a 50k EV range which means that. in theory, you could do a lot/most of commuting purely on electricity and charge it up each night.

Can't do that with the Camry unfortunately.
 
basilio said:
I think the "problem" with the Camry hybrid is that it has a minimal battery only range.
I gather the VW has a 50k EV range which means that. in theory, you could do a lot/most of commuting purely on electricity and charge it up each night.

Can't do that with the Camry unfortunately.
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That is true Bas and I do like VW's, but the Camry at $28k is a bargain, especially if you travel from outer areas into a city.
The Camry would charge on the way in, then run on battery assist around the city and it is cheaper than the petrol Camry.:eek:
The VW will be well in excess of $50k.
Having said that the VW has a li ion battery and the Camry has a NiMh battery, which does favour the VW, but the difference in purchase price as opposed to the benefits favour the Camry IMO.
To compare the VW with a pure EV would be a better comparison, with regard range and price, the price is similar so then you are only comparing practicality of the drive trains.
At $50k you are looking at the Nissan Leaf and the Hyundai Kona pure EV's, which have a lot to offer, the Hyundai has a 450klm range apparently.
Just my opinion.
 
I can see an argument for a a hybrid vehicle which reduces fuel consumption, offers extended range and gives one the flexibility of 2 power sources which can be used individually or together. It was a good idea when battery technology was expensive and it was very difficult to demonstrate the overall value of a pure electric system.

I think it falls down now because

1) Having a petrol motor and the inter connectivity with an electric motor adds another level of cost and complexity to the overall vehicle cost
2) The rapidly falling costs of batteries is making a pure electric vehicle more viable
3) People are becoming aware of just how simple an electric car will be to run and service. The long term costs of running a car will/should drop substantially
4) Air pollution issues and carbon emissions are now far higher on the agenda. Turning to electric vehicles fuelled by renewable energy sources is a far better solution to tackle pollution and global heating.
 
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