$50k is a bloody lot for a lunchbox on wheels though. But I like the idea of it being a mobile powerstation.
$50k is a bloody lot for a lunchbox on wheels though. But I like the idea of it being a mobile powerstation.This is really clever IMV. The new Nissan Leaf can be connected directly to ones house as a power source and power supply. So it can charge its battery off surplus solar power and then be used at night to keep the lights on. In effect one has a 40kw home battery unit that they can also use to drive to work in. Might even pinch some juice from external chargers and bring it home
Versatile and Clever... and not that pricey. Less than $50k
Nissan sees Leaf as home energy source, says Tesla big battery “waste of resources”
- Posted on July 11, 2019
- 4 minute read
- Bridie Schmidt
Source: Nissan
Owning an electric car in Australia could become much more than just driving from A to B with a reduced carbon footprint, according to Nissan Australia which launched the new version of the Nissan Leaf electric vehicle in Melbourne on Wednesday .
Nissan confirmed at the launch that the new Leaf, with a 40kWh battery, will be a V2H (vehicle-to-home) energy asset – meaning that, unlike other electric vehicles, it will have the capability to charge your home (subject to further testing with Australia’s network owners and operators).
Called bidirectional charging, the 40kWh Leaf (and for that matter the 62kWh version which is not yet slated for an Australian release) essentially has the capability to become your personal, massive, mobile battery.
This means it will be able to not only store energy by plugging into your home, workplace or other destinations such as shopping centres with free charging, or from DC fast-chargers – it will be able to serve that energy back to your home.
https://thedriven.io/2019/07/11/nis...ce-says-tesla-big-battery-waste-of-resources/
Petrol bowsers need electricity to, so if charging stations are down, so are petrol stations.
Also, as I have said constantly, 99% of people will be charging offpeak at home, and will start each day with a full battery.
And as Basillo pointed out, EV’s can help augment power supply in the future.
You can't have power cords running on the ground, ohs issues. It would have to be an input right next to the car. I suppose carparks next to train stations where you could charge while at work in the city.Packed with cars that could be charging in the future hahaha.
I'd just like to see some analysis based on reasonable assumptions, like if 10% of the vehicle fleet was electric, driving the same average kms as people do now, how much extra generating capacity we would need.
Do you have any data on this ?
I haven't seen anything in the media about the nuts and bolts figures as opposed to blue sky aspirations.
Hybrids still seem the better proposition to me.
You can't have power cords running on the ground, ohs issues. It would have to be an input right next to the car. I suppose carparks next to train stations where you could charge while at work in the city.
It’s not about having extra total capacity. Because as I said 99% of charging will be done offpeak, when a lot of the existing capacity is sitting idle, doing nothing.
If anything it will help smooth the loads on the grid, and make generators more profitable, which may lower their breakeven price on each units they generate, because their fixed assets will have higher utilization rates.
They have two spots at one shopping center I went too and both were vandalized. I agree at home is best.Or at Coles and woolies while you shop, etc. the possibilities are endless.
But yeah, simply charging at home is best.
The concept of having to drive to a charging spot is old fashioned petrol engine thinking.
Power supply isn't even guaranteed for next summer following a round of outages in ageing power stations.
There needs to be a political direction regarding our future energy supply needs, and there just isn't one.
I wonder if politicians even talk to engineers about how to build the things they are suggesting.
Existing capacity doesn't "sit idle doing nothing". It pumps water uphill in the hydro stations ready to smooth out increases in power demands. If it was charging electric cars instead then that hydro power would not be available for water heaters or commerce and industry the next day.
Supply and demand have to be matched at all times.
It would be cool if you could use the car battery for electric needs (following on from the leaf) when you got home eg: cooking, tv, etc. Then charge during off-peak.
Building any power system at this time would be great.. But your right; building a strong renewable energy power system is not on the current governments to do list.
If there is no excess capacity sitting there, why do “offpeak” times exist?
It would be cool if you could use the car battery for electric needs (following on from the leaf) when you got home eg: cooking, tv, etc. Then charge during off-peak.
They are simply times of lower consumer demand. But if a coal fired station is running, it's generating and that power has to go somewhere so it goes into offpeak water heating and hydro pumping, it definitely does not do nothing.
They are simply times of lower consumer demand. But if a coal fired station is running, it's generating and that power has to go somewhere so it goes into offpeak water heating and hydro pumping, it definitely does not do nothing.
It would make sense to use excess off peak power to refill small hydro dams. Not sure if that happens at the moment though
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11...ng-increased-electricity-consumption/10460212
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