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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
I womder what ever happened to Ralph Sarich's rotary engine that was going to set the world alight all those years ago.
From memory the engine was dropped, a mate worked for them and he said their fuel injection was very good and was used by Mercury outboards, again only going from distant memory which is becoming vague with age related software issues.
 
I womder what ever happened to Ralph Sarich's rotary engine that was going to set the world alight all those years ago.

I remember going to automotive shows and seeing Sarich on his stand explaining and showing his concept.

From memory, the idea was good, but a couple of small issues kept it from taking off. One issue was the gears it used, making it complex and noisy. And the other was the fact that the Rotary engine is a horsepower unit rather than a torque producer.

Rotary engines don't produce torque. Horsepower is great for high-speed engines; circuit racing guys love them, but efficiency is not the greatest. And that is what the Sarich engine was meant to overcome - increased efficiency and torque production.

Customers of engines work in a world where cost comes first, it is cheaper to purchase and run a piston/conrod engine than a rotary. The piston/conrod engine can easily and cheaply be designed for maximum torque.

Mazda's rotary engine is just a nice gimmick like all sports cars, great lookers that go fast but you can't take the family in it and it's no good for a load of timber.

Horsepower vs. Torque: Which Is More Important?
 
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Spot on John, my oldest son had an RX2 coupe with a 13B, sold it about 5 years ago, screamed its guts out and tore through fuel.
Back in the 70's we used to always say they go as fast as a small V8, but don't have the benefits.

I think Mazda talked about having it on the back burner, as a H2 fueled range extender for battery E.V's, the idea being that it could be a physically small size generator to charge the traction battery where renewable charging infrastructure is unlikely to be installed.
The rotary fits the bill, as it would run at constant optimum rpm, is highly suited to running on hydrogen and can be made relatively small.
Again all just from memory.
 
I wonder if the Auto manufacturers, will use this opportunity to re jig its modus operandi ?
It will be interesting to watch, in my experience these issues never play out, as the workers expect.
Especially when strikes coincide with industry challenges, as in the manufactures having to change from an ICE based platform, to an EV based one.
A lot of down sizing will be required and assembly plants reconfiguring.


The United Auto Workers (UAW) union has declared a strike targeting Ford, General Motors and Stellantis, in a bid to put pressure on the carmakers to grant higher pay and make other improvements in new labour agreements.
It comes at a time of broader labour unrest and casts a cloud of uncertainty over an industry that accounts for 3% of the national economy.
US President Joe Biden has been forced to weigh in on the dispute, which is playing out in states that have disproportionate importance in national elections.
UAW membership peaked in 1979 at almost 1.5 million.

Today, it represents more than 400,000 active workers across a wide range of sectors, including hospitals and universities, including more than 140,000 members who work at Ford, GM and Stellantis.

This is the first strike in the UAW's 88-year history to target all three companies - known as the Detroit Three - at once.

The action is the brainchild of Shawn Fain, a fiery former electrician in the industry who was narrowly elected this spring promising a more transparent and combative approach to contract negotiations.

The work stoppage currently affects just three factories, which together employ fewer than 13,000 workers.
The three companies account for roughly 40% of car sales. These shutdowns affect a small fraction of their production.
But with inventories sitting at relatively low levels, analysts have warned that a prolonged stoppage could still lead to higher prices for buyers.
 
Macquarie are getting in the act ... from their monthly 'newsletter' :

We’re pleased to bring you the latest insights from our team at Macquarie.

In this edition, you’ll find tips on how to get your home ready for an electric car, including charging options for apartment-dwellers and those without a dedicated parking spot. If you’re ready to calculate whether an electric vehicle might be right for you, try our new EV savings calculator to compare costs between owning an electric vehicle and a petrol/diesel/hybrid vehicle....

 
Despite having developed the hybrid market via the Prius, Toyota are a bit late to the purely EV market.
They plan to change that.
From Nikkei
Better late than never.
Mick
 
Ford on the other hand, despite also wanting to use CTL battery technology, have halted construction of a CTL licensed battery factory ,
From Detroit News
Mick
 
Will Victorian EV owners receive a refund? Should there be criminal charges for fraudulent use of government powers?

 
Note that OZ does not appear on the list.
Is it because we have less than Norways 31 public charging stations per 1,000 EV's , or is it because we were not considered important to be inclue in the list?
 
Note that OZ does not appear on the list.
Is it because we have less than Norways 31 public charging stations per 1,000 EV's , or is it because we were not considered important to be inclue in the list?
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It's because that was published in 2022, when Australia had FA public charging stations. If they checked now, I reckon that we'd make the list, just.
 
An all electric underground mining haul truck is on testing duties n OZ.
from The driven
Be interesting to see how it all goes and whether they can scale it up.
354 KWHr battery is a big bugger to charge up. Makes life more difficult if you have a fleet of 30 of them.
Mick
 
And I imagine the impact of a fire there, even if gold mknkng is safer than coal obviously ...the released chemicals of a fire would be horrendous in a closed environment
 
I have read in the past two days seprate reports from the UK where Insurance companies are refusing to insure or reinsure elctric vehicles because of the high propensity for them to be Insurance write offs (as distinct from statutory write offs).
It seems that the cost of repairing an EV in even a small collision has become prohibitive.
Not that I think this is confined to EV's.
Cars are now designed protect the occupants from injury as the prima faccia.
I have seen a couple of late model cars that seem only superficially damaged at the auction yards.
The problem is, with so many airbags that need to be removed, disposed off carefully (specially the ones that did not go off) and replaced, its just not worthwhile.
Firslty John Lewis in the UK and its underwriters have "paused" EV insurance.
Then theres this one fromThe Guardian

I suspect this issue will start to rear its ugly head in Oz.
Allianz which insures our BYD EV, was very cheap compared to RACV on the insurance.
I hope it does not start to ramp up.
Mick
 

$1053.37 through my Australian insurance company, though the excess is on the high side.

 
Repco getting in on the act -
 

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