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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%

  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.8%

  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.6%

  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 37 18.8%

  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.7%

  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Total voters
    197
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Humid said:
Well it's 2022
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That's right and I'm saying that E.V's are picking up and ICE vehicles will slowly disappear, you say that's rubbish try and order a new Landcruiser.
You are actually agreeing with Scomo, which is weird because you say he is talking rubbish, when he says E.V's will ruin the weekend.

Really you don't know what to think do you, you can't actually work out a scenario, so you slag off at me, when I've actually given reasons for my beliefs.
Your just trolling aren't you, mindless trolling.
If not give some reasons and stop criticising Scomo, he is on your side. ?
 
sptrawler said:
That's right and I'm saying that E.V's are picking up and ICE vehicles will slowly disappear, you say that's rubbish try and order a new Landcruiser.
You are actually agreeing with Scomo, which is weird because you say he is talking rubbish, when he says E.V's will ruin the weekend.

Really you don't know what to think do you, you can't actually work out a scenario, so you slag off at me, when I've actually given reasons for my beliefs.
Your just trolling aren't you, mindless trolling.
If not give some reasons and stop criticising Scomo, he is on your side. ?
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I still remember people thinking IPhones were a fad, and a toy for rich nerds, look at the phone market now though.

Now cars last longer than phones, so the uptake curb won’t be as steep, but the numbers of EV’s on the road will steadily rise, there is no way that ICE cars aren’t going to decline.
 
Value Collector said:
I still remember people thinking IPhones were a fad, and a toy for rich nerds, look at the phone market now though.

Now cars last longer than phones, so the uptake curb won’t be as steep, but the numbers of EV’s on the road will steadily rise, there is no way that ICE cars aren’t going to decline.
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When people with a bit of cash go in to change over cars, if they are trading in a reasonable car worth for example $30-$40k, what are they going to buy a Tesla for mid $60k or an ICE high spec car from a mid range manufacturer?
Most legacy manufacturers have now raised the price of their ICE range, especially the ones that compete in the luxury mid range market around the $40-$50k mark.
If they are after a dual cab ute, or a tow vehicle, at the moment they will go for an ICE vehicle. But in five years time who knows what will be available in the EV range.
As with your example with the IPhone, it was mentioned in this thread, 10 years ago every taxi in Australia was running on LPG, now you would be lucky to find one.
Hybrids just make a lot more sense, than converting the same model ICE vehicle to LPG i.e the Toyota Camry.
 
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Humid said:
I mean local ....even here
I know quite well how irrelevant we are thanks
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Realistically how many Australians care even slightly about the federal government these days?

Sometime in the past sure, people respected Hawke for example whether they agreed with him on any particular matter or not but those days are long gone. Prime Minister isn't a title that's held in high regard anymore and especially not when it comes to the private decision of buying a car.

The average person will buy a car that suits their needs which, for most, is defined as some combination of practicality, economy and prestige. If it's petrol, diesel or electric then so be it. :2twocents
 
sptrawler said:
When people with a bit of cash go in to change over cars, if they are trading in a reasonable car worth for example $30-$40k, what are they going to buy a Tesla for mid $60k or an ICE high spec car from a mid range manufacturer?
Most legacy manufacturers have now raised the price of their ICE range, especially the ones that compete in the luxury mid range market around the $40-$50k mark.
If they are after a dual cab ute, or a tow vehicle, at the moment they will go for an ICE vehicle. But in five years time who knows what will be available in the EV range.
As with your example with the IPhone, it was mentioned in this thread, 10 years ago every taxi in Australia was running on LPG, now you would be lucky to find one.
Hybrids just make a lot more sense, than converting the same model ICE vehicle to LPG i.e the Toyota Camry.
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Trade-in pricing has been dropping since December last year. New car supply has slowly been ramping up and dealerships do not want to be caught with expensive used stock when replacement new stock starts filling their storage yards.

Private used sales is still relatively high.

Potential buyers of new vehicles are in a bit of a conundrum - what to buy that will maintain good resale value while EV sales keep growing? Do I buy a hybrid or wait for an EV equivalent?
 
Spot on @JohnDe , the cost is very close between hybrid and EV.
With regard selling or trading I work out what camparable cars to mine are selling for, then just work out what chanegeover I want, if I cant get jt, then I try to sell privately.
With the supply problems, there is no movement on the new vehicle price ATM.
Well that is what I found in W.A and I checked from Mandurah to Morley a suburb North of Perth, so that was about 10 dealerships and about 100klm.
It may be different over East.
 
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sptrawler said:
Go and order any desirable car tomorrow and give me a delivery date, the Hyundai EV6 orders run out to 2005, a mate ordered a Hyundai I20N he has been waiting 3 months, still no arrival time.
Like I said, most manufacturers are only making to order, it makes sense, the last thing they want is the cost of making cars on spec with a hope that they will sell.
The cost to change over to E.V's will be huge, the last thing they will want is to be making ICE cars, that they have to support for 10years from manufacture.
That is just smart business sense, wait until the supply of EV's improves, then see what price you get for an ICE car.
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Maybe read your own posts precious
 
sptrawler said:
Spot on @JohnDe , the cost is very close between hybrid and EV.
With regard selling or trading I work out what camparable cars to mine are selling for, then just work out what chanegeover I want, if I cant get jt, then I try to sell privately.
With the supply problems, there is no movement on the new vehicle price ATM.
Well that is what I found in W.A and I checked from Mandurah to Morley a suburb North of Perth, so that was about 10 dealerships and about 100klm.
It may be different over East.
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Yes, each state may be different though I doubt it will be by much. I am involved in the industry and noticed a slight change at the end of 2021, and the change is picking up pace in 2022. There's not a lot of quality stock out there but there is also not a lot of people willing to pay the prices of 6+ months ago. The mad rush to buy any car during the lock downs has slowed drastically, the buyers that missed out are now willing to wait.

If anyone is thinking of selling they'd better do it now, because soon it is going to be hard to move your used car at a price that you think is fair.
 
Humid said:
Maybe read your own posts precious
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Well reading my posts, would be a lot more informative than reading your diatribe, there is only so many times you can say you hate Scott Morrison, it's a shame that is all you add to the forum.
But I guess you are struggling with personal issues, the same as the rest of us, it's a shame you can't seem to get over your anger.
 
JohnDe said:
Yes, each state may be different though I doubt it will be by much. I am involved in the industry and noticed a slight change at the end of 2021, and the change is picking up pace in 2022. There's not a lot of quality stock out there but there is also not a lot of people willing to pay the prices of 6+ months ago. The mad rush to buy any car during the lock downs has slowed drastically, the buyers that missed out are now willing to wait.

If anyone is thinking of selling they'd better do it now, because soon it is going to be hard to move your used car at a price that you think is fair.
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It is an interesting situation, I've never been to buy a car, where they all seem to be very inflexible. They certainly sounded like they are singing from the same song sheet, Toyota, Hyundai, Mitsubishi, Tesla, same story we value your car, no you can't have a demo and the new car has to be ordered.
Well that was with hybrids and E.V's, didn't try buying an ICE vehicle. Maybe they will be more flexible on ICE vehicles, because they probably want to move them quickly.
Just my experience, in the last coupe of weeks.
 
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sptrawler said:
Well reading my posts, would be a lot more informative than reading your diatribe, there is only so many times you can say you hate Scott Morrison, it's a shame that is all you add to the forum.
But I guess you are struggling with personal issues, the same as the rest of us, it's a shame you can't seem to get over your anger.
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You assume i'm angry
 
Humid said:
You assume i'm angry
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Well there has to be a reason for your constant attack on people, unless you are just an unpleasant person by nature, but if that was the case you would probably have trouble getting return work and you don't seem to have trouble with that.
So yes I assume your angry, you don't want to add anything to discussions, just three word criticisms, it might be your way of interacting, but normal people find it unusual, aggressive and somewhat weird.
You tell me to read back through my posts, why don't you try the same, maybe this thread, then ask yourself what of value have you added. When you have done that, you could try other threads, you will find the same, you add nothing but spite, mainly aimed at Morrison, myself, WayneL and moxjo. :xyxthumbs
 
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sptrawler said:
Well there has to be a reason for your constant attack on people, unless you are just an unpleasant person by nature, but if that was the case you would probably have trouble getting return work and you don't seem to have trouble with that.
So yes I assume your angry, you don't want to add anything to discussions, just three word criticisms, it might be your way of interacting, but normal people find it unusual, aggressive and somewhat weird.
You tell me to read back through my posts, why don't you try the same, maybe this thread, then ask yourself what of value have you added. When you have done that, you try other threads, you will find the same, you add nothing but spite, mainly aimed at Morrison and myself and moxjo. :xyxthumbs
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Do you need a hug?
 
Humid said:
Do you need a hug?
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No not at all, I spent my whole life, dealing with strange people like you, why would you bother me.
I'm just trying to get you to join in the forum as a valued contributing member, instead of the way you are interacting up until now, using the forum as a place to vent just limits how much you can get out of it.
Maybe you have run out of friends, so you come here to vent, I guess it does save you doing it to you close family? Leopards don't change their spots, so I guess your a person who likes to try and bully people, whatever turns you on mate. ?
 
Just spoke to the Mrs about a random bloke on a forum reckons I should become a valued contributing member
She said to tell him to f.... off and get a life
 
Humid said:
Just spoke to the Mrs about a random bloke on a forum reckons I should become a valued contributing member
She said to tell him to f.... off and get a life
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Well that is self explanatory, sounds as though you're a match made in heaven. ?
She is probably just happy, you're on the forum and not dribbling $hit to her for a change. :xyxthumbs
 
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