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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
Uber surge pricing is putting me off using them.
$53 to the airport in the arvo and $143 Friday night airport to home?
A single mum at the units was saying the same, i sold her one of our electric scooters cheap, she finds it great for getting around.
Doesnt drive or have a car.
 
The old buttering up the single mum routine you old rooster
No chance of that, I'm way too old to give a house away now.
I've finally reached an age, where the big head has taken control of the little one, instead of the other way round like you young blokes.
 
Slowly but surely, the EV revolution creates new industry and wealth.


 
E.V sales is starting to affect material prices.
From the article:
Global EV sales jumped 83% year-on-year in 2021, insights from Adamas Intelligence show.

According to the market analyst, over 98% of all watt-hours deployed last year went into plug-in electric vehicles alone, both battery electric vehicles (BEVs) and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEV).

Adamas Intelligence’s report also points out that 2021 saw a record 286.2 GWh deployed onto roads in the batteries of new passenger EVs globally, a 113% leap over 2020.

The firm’s dossier mentions that 54% of battery capacity deployed onto roads globally in new plug-in electric vehicles was powered by high nickel cathode chemistries or NCM 6-, 7-, 8-series, NCA, and NCMA; 26% by low nickel cathodes or NCM 5-series and lower, and 20% by no nickel cathodes, primarily LFP.

“Regionally, deployment of high nickel chemistries was most prevalent in the Americas on the back of Tesla, VW, Ford, Hyundai and others, while the deployment of no nickel cells was most prevalent in Asia Pacific, and particularly China, on the back of Tesla, BYD, SGMW, Great Wall and a long list of others,” the document states.

“Like the Americas, Europe saw minuscule deployment of no nickel cells onto roads in 2021 but unlike the Americas, saw a greater proportion of its watt-hours deployed powered by low nickel cells, albeit high nickel still dominated the region.”



The researcher’s data show that in Asia Pacific specifically, no-nickel chemistries seized 34% of the plug-in electric vehicle market by battery capacity deployed onto roads in 2021 albeit no-nickel cells were present in over 41% of all vehicles sold.

“This disparity stems from the smaller sales-weighted average pack capacities of LFP-powered EVs relative to low and high nickel alternatives,” the report reads. “Given the different chemistries preferred in each region, the demand for lithium chemical precursors also varied.”

Adamas found that in the Americas, over 86% of all lithium carbonate equivalent (LCE) units deployed onto roads in 2021 were in the form of lithium hydroxide. In Europe, this proportion amounted to 51% and in Asia Pacific 30%. In the research firm’s view, these results speak to the regional preferences for high, low and nickel chemistries.

At the global level, 45% of all LCE units deployed onto roads globally in 2021 were in the form of lithium carbonate and 55% lithium hydroxide.

Overall, the market analyst estimated that a record 173,641 tonnes of LCE were deployed onto roads globally in newly sold passenger EVs in 2021, up 110% year over year.
 
Interesting you tube video, on different battery drain, with different accessories. Done in U.K, but very interesting.

 
Yesterday morning while trapped in the dentists chair, the TV on the ceiling had one of the commercial breakfast morning shows.
The BYD electric car was featured on the show, looked about the same size as the wife's Mazda Cx5.
Will definitely have a look at this one.
Mick
 
Yes they sound good value for money, well considering they are an EV.
The son has gone off grid and has a 15KW/12 usable BYD house battery, LiPo blade design, they sound o.k.
If you don't travel huge distances and have your own solar panels, it would work out well IMO.
It's a shame that Mitsubishi and Nissan are the only two that are already equipped with V2G and V2H technology.
Another couple of years and it will probably be standard in all of the E.V's. as with everything when it first comes out, it takes a few years for the manufacturers to stop having pizzing comps and start to standadise the equipment.
 

Is there a dealership closer than 200km to you, or have you decided that driving to Melbourne for a service is now acceptable?

#4,871
 
Is there a dealership closer than 200km to you, or have you decided that driving to Melbourne for a service is now acceptable?

#4,871
I said I was not keen on driving to Melbourne for a service on a car and I am still not keen on driving to Melbourne for a service. on a car.
Nothing has changed.
It is one of many factors to be considered in purchasing a new car, like the initial cost, build quality, price, resale value reputation etc etc.
Currently, no dealership near me can service EV's.
I doubt any of them will spend the money on EV servicing setups until the court case between Mercedes and its dealership owners is settled.
If Mercedes wins and direct selling becomes the norm, many dealerships will likely close, as they will not make the money they used to and the dealerships land will be worth than the dealership itself.

Mick
 

Yes, you have stated a number of times that you are "not keen" to drive to Melbourne for a service.

You also mentioned price and size.

The BYD measuring 4070mm long, 1770mm wide and 1570mm high (with a 2700mm wheelbase)
Mazda CX-5 Dimensions 4,575 mm L x 1,845 mm W x 1,675 mm H (with a 2700mm wheelbase)

The Mazda CX-5 is available from $31,390 Mazda CX-5
BYD Atto 3 is available from $44381 BYD Atto 3

The Mazda is still looking good for your wife's needs.
 
I said I was not keen on driving to Melbourne for a service on a car and I am still not keen on driving to Melbourne for a service. on a car.
Nothing has changed.
As others have pointed out, there's not much involved and anyone can do.
I doubt any of them will spend the money on EV servicing setups until the court case between Mercedes and its dealership owners is settled.
Given that BYD will use mycar (formerly KMart Tyre & Auto) to service their vehicles there are no extra set up costs for workshops.
If Mercedes wins and direct selling becomes the norm, many dealerships will likely close, as they will not make the money they used to and the dealerships land will be worth than the dealership itself.
Looks like you are looking for a problem when there is none.
 
Well we did say that subsidising E.V's would just give money to the rich.

Claim electric car subsidy a ‘reverse Robin Hood’ scheme​

Postcode data shows a green scheme that subsidises people buying electric cars has been overwhelmingly taken up by wealthy Sydney suburbs.

 
Luckily EVs don’t require as much servicing.
 
They said the same thing when subsidy’s for solar panels first came out, but those “rich” folks that got in early helped build the solar industry that know serves everyone.
 
They said the same thing when subsidy’s for solar panels first came out, but those “rich” folks that got in early helped build the solar industry that know serves everyone.
That's true but I would rather see them spending the money on charging infrastructure before subsidising the cars.
Everyone has their own preferences.
With solar panels the rich people who could afford them first, got the higher feed in tariff, now it serves everyone the feed in tariff is a lot less.
 
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