Education

basilio said:

Don't quite know how long it will be before Skynet is operational. Perhaps we can enjoy Christmas this year ?

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mullokintyre said:

To which Skynet were you referring?
This one or maybe This one from Terminator ?
Mick

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mullokintyre said:

Was at a Christmas function on on the weekend and was talking to a lecturer at Federation University.
As has been suggested, some of these instituions are merely sausage factories.
He was dragged over the coals this year ecause he failed more than 50% of his class.
They were all overseas fee paying students, as was the majority of the class.
Administration have demanded that he let those who failed re sit the exam as an open book exam.
He suggested that even then some of them will fail.
He says he is "considering his options".
Mick

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Federation TAFE in Ballarat offers first accredited medicinal cannabis cultivation course​

Key points:​

• Certificates III in Cannabis Cultivation and Production will be offered, followed by Certificates IV in 2025
• The course is the first of its kind in Australia for the agricultural development of medicinal cannabis
• By 2028 the Victorian medicinal cannabis industry is expected to service between 30-50 per cent of nationwide demand

• In short: A Grattan Institute report says one third of Australia's 4 million school children are being failed by an education system that persists with discredited theories to teach reading.
• Students lacking reading skills are more likely to fall behind, disrupt class and end up unemployed or jailed, coming at an estimated cost to the economy of $40 billion over their lifetimes, the report concluded.
• What's next? Governments and school systems are being urged to commit to what's known as "structured literacy", a mix of direct instruction and phonics.

sptrawler said:

The never ending revolving door of failure, our education revolution has produced continues and no one cares enough to be honest about the problem IMO.
Teach them about sexuality and culture, but let's forget about maths, reading and science, as if they will need those abilities.

Popular teaching style 'contrary to science' costing Australia $40 billion, report finds

One-third of Australian students are failing to learn to read proficiently, at an estimated cost to the economy of $40 billion, according to a new study.

www.abc.net.au

• In short: A Grattan Institute report says one third of Australia's 4 million school children are being failed by an education system that persists with discredited theories to teach reading.
• Students lacking reading skills are more likely to fall behind, disrupt class and end up unemployed or jailed, coming at an estimated cost to the economy of $40 billion over their lifetimes, the report concluded.
• What's next? Governments and school systems are being urged to commit to what's known as "structured literacy", a mix of direct instruction and phonics.

The Grattan Institute's Reading Guarantee report calls this a "preventable tragedy" caused by persisting with teaching styles popular at universities, but "contrary to science" and discredited by inquiries in all major English-speaking countries.

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sptrawler said:

The never ending revolving door of failure, our education revolution has produced continues and no one cares enough to be honest about the problem IMO.
Teach them about sexuality and culture, but let's forget about maths, reading and science, as if they will need those abilities.

Popular teaching style 'contrary to science' costing Australia $40 billion, report finds

One-third of Australian students are failing to learn to read proficiently, at an estimated cost to the economy of $40 billion, according to a new study.

www.abc.net.au

• In short: A Grattan Institute report says one third of Australia's 4 million school children are being failed by an education system that persists with discredited theories to teach reading.
• Students lacking reading skills are more likely to fall behind, disrupt class and end up unemployed or jailed, coming at an estimated cost to the economy of $40 billion over their lifetimes, the report concluded.
• What's next? Governments and school systems are being urged to commit to what's known as "structured literacy", a mix of direct instruction and phonics.

The Grattan Institute's Reading Guarantee report calls this a "preventable tragedy" caused by persisting with teaching styles popular at universities, but "contrary to science" and discredited by inquiries in all major English-speaking countries.

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sptrawler said:

The Grattan Institute's Reading Guarantee report calls this a "preventable tragedy" caused by persisting with teaching styles popular at universities, but "contrary to science" and discredited by inquiries in all major English-speaking countries.

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Smurf1976 said:

Emphasis mine.

The real question here surely is why are universities teaching something that's widely discredited?

That raises a lot of questions not about the teaching of primary students but of the education offered by universities themselves.

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'Inequality in funding' driving public school exodus as private schools continue to lift enrolments​

sptrawler said:

Interesting narrative by your ABC, there is a public school exodus, they say it is from lack of funding.
From people I talk to, it is because the parents want their kids to learn and have a chance to make a career.
There are only so many jobs available in the arts and social sciences.

There is a reason that suburbs with high performing public schools, have a corresponding high real estate value, maybe the ABC could fact check that?
I mean let's be serious, if they thought their children would be taught how to read and write and be reasonably proficient at maths, they wouldn't pay a stupid amount of money for a private education.
The problem is they don't teach the kids to read and write and to learn their multiplication tables in public schools, they learn social sciences and cultural heritage and why they don't have to learn, as long as they are having fun and are aware of their sexuality life's good.
When the F#ck are they going to wake up.
I live in a public school area, but the public high school gets in the top 10 nearly every year, the Asian families, the Indian families pay a huge premium just to get into the suburb.
It is time everyone stopped talking rubbish and started asking for outcomes, not just more money inputs, I shouldn't have to be teaching my grandkids the times tables, they weren't my favourite pass time when I was a kid, but my teachers still perservered and got on with it.
My rant on my favorite subject.

Soaring private school enrolments hint at growing 'segregation' in education, expert says

Private school enrolments have soared for the third straight year as parents leave the public system in record numbers in favour of independent or Catholic schools.

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'Inequality in funding' driving public school exodus as private schools continue to lift enrolments​

Private school enrolments have soared for the third straight year as parents leave the public system in record numbers in favour of independent or Catholic schools.

The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) has released new data for 2023 that shows the trend to private schools is growing even as interest rate rises and cost of living pressure eat into budgets.

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sptrawler said:

Well this is a new one, sue the school for lack of discipline, resulting in you not performing at your best.

Aimee says bullying hurt her HSC results. Now she’s suing her school

Aimee Clifton says bullying at school led to severe stress, which caused her to under-perform in the HSC. She wants the school to pay almost $600,000 in compensation.

www.smh.com.au

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sptrawler said:

Cheating is obviously becoming a huge problem, I wonder how long it will be before employers have to test prospective employees to ascertain if they actually have the knowledge their degree is saying they have.

Now we are recognising overseas qualifications, will the problem be compounded? I can see this costing companies a lot of money, longer term and further devaluing degrees.

Hundreds of uni students caught in ‘new wave’ cheating

The real number of students using artificial intelligence is likely far higher, experts say, with detection tools only able to catch unsophisticated cheats.

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Universities are catching hundreds of students in a new wave of alleged cheating using ChatGPT or other artificial intelligence, as the tertiary sector deploys a new anti-plagiarism tool and eagle-eyed markers in an attempt to tackle the misconduct.

Sydney University has disclosed that 330 instances of apparent plagiarism using artificial intelligence occurred in 2023, as the mainstream impact of the technology becomes evident.

Most other universities, however, are tight-lipped about the extent of artificial-intelligence cheating in their institutions, amid widespread fears that it’s undetectable.
Deakin University cheating detection expert Professor Phillip Dawson said it was likely only a small portion of AI cheats were caught, given the limitations of available detection methods.

“I think unless students are being supervised [during an assessment] … the assumption should be students are going to use AI,” he said.
“Most research showing good detection rates is based on the assumption that someone just copy-and-pastes, and they don’t ask ChatGPT to reword or paraphrase.
“The detection accuracy scores are based on the assumption that the AI user is an idiot.”
University of NSW declined to release any data on AI cheating, but its latest academic misconduct report revealed early indications of a “new wave” of suspected cheating relating to ChatGPT and other online tools, with a significant increase in referrals in 2023.

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