Economic implications of a SARS/Coronavirus outbreak

[qldfrog]

When you have a business, you follow the rules as you have no choice,
?as long as you do not overdo it, I think everyone understands it.
Have all a great day?

 

[wayneL]

I apologise.

Bygones, bro.

And if I'm honest I'm am a little bit in a permanently triggered state myself at the moment.

I've always tried to live my life as fearlessly as possible. Fear is not an option when getting under 600-700Kg of pure fight or flight which often has been inadequately trained.

... So it bothers me that many of the people I'm interacting with are absolutely terrified.... And in my humble opinion unjustifiably so.

Sensible and cautious yes, but the fearful are doing my head in.

So, man, my sympathetic nervous system is running on all 8, and my cortisol levels are no doubt through the roof.

I'm in fight mode of fight or flight.

So, I too apologize. I am intentionally trying to trigger people but only to try to think and discuss. I may have got that wrong.

 

[over9k]

Reputations exist. Word of mouth exists. For both the upside and the downside. Word can spread about a good business just as easily as it can spread about a bad one.

This is a non-discussion.

 

[Humid]

Why did they want ID?
Never had it happen to me

 

[Humid]

And my credit card statement looks like Northern Suburbs bottleshop directory

 

[over9k]

Total storm in a teacup. I'll be deploying my remaining 10% cash tomorrow.

 

[qldfrog]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pandemic-caused-many-boomers-retire-110057134.html
This will probably trigger higher inflation and lower tax receipts for the economy, and many happier and more meaningful lives.Pew's reports are usually very trustful and abstain of political bias.
The way i see it, people have been forced to realise life is not work, or to be more exact , a minimum of8 to 5/6:30 slaving against a title, a $ package being gouged 30 to 50% by greedy tax offices for governments who demonstrated clearly their incompetence and clear self interest.it may also at last made people realise that death is coming and life is short, however high your bank account.
O found this very dalutary and great at the individual level, but obviously less wonderfull for the economy.
In short, less sheeps, more eagles..I also suspect that most of the exiting workers will be more of the thinking ones and so expect worse common sense, more pen pishing and hierarchy stupidity from the remaining ones.
The governments will ultimately try to fight: stick and carrot.
expect raising pension age,tax incentives but i suspect the response will be F. Y.
More work,more money.... to be imprisoned in my own home/country at the wimp of an idiotic state Premier who is ready to kill my business or murder me if it get her//him reelection?
I go fishing or golfing with mates...

 

[qldfrog]

Hope that post is not too autobiographical....but i doubt that i am alone

 

[pozindustrial]

Hope that post is not too autobiographical....but i doubt that i am alone

Fishing and golfing with mates - great for the soul

 

[bux2000]

In short, less sheeps, more eagles.

even eagles need a push video at DuckDuckGo

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All the best
bux

 

[bux2000]

I apologise once again for my technical ineptness

 

[qldfrog]

Fishing and golfing with mates - great for the soul

Well better than building an intl business crushed by travel regulations or pissing code,or handling a corporate PMO and then be taxed at 45% on income streamed from OS while blamed by 49% of your citizens as the cause of their own failure.
I let them pay their imports,and social programs, and covid tests

 

[qldfrog]

Fishing and golfing with mates - great for the soul

Actually,do not have time for either. But out of subject

 

[bux2000]

Actually,do not have time for either.

Yeh........ I know .......Mates can be a bit like that sometimes

bux

 

[over9k]

CNBC's done a bit on rubber:

 

[noirua]

Covid: Woman aged 90 died with double variant infection

Simultaneous infections are rare but can happen, particularly in people yet to be vaccinated, warn experts.

www.bbc.co.uk

BA.4 and BA.5 Omicron: How worried should we be?

Surges of Covid are happening again around the world, driven by some new subvariants of Omicron.

www.bbc.co.uk

The economic situation is easy to understand here. The UK is battling with its economy versus getting everyone vaccinated and hoping the increases in cases likely to reach 100,000 per day will lead to fewer hospitalisations. Whether other countries can achieve this is unlikely so disaster will befall some who may have to follow Brazil's example and let their economies travel on regardless.

 

[noirua]

5 Things To Know About the Delta Variant

Delta was a highly contagious SARS-CoV-2 virus strain that was first identified in India, and also circulated in the United States and other countries. The vaccines have proven to be highly effective against Delta, but anyone who is unvaccinated is at risk for infection by the variant.

www.yalemedicine.org

“It’s actually quite dramatic how the growth rate will change,” says Dr. Wilson. Delta is spreading 50% faster than Alpha, which was 50% more contagious than the original strain of SARS-CoV-2, he says. “In a completely unmitigated environment—where no one is vaccinated or wearing masks—it’s estimated that the average person infected with the original coronavirus strain will infect 2.5 other people,” Dr. Wilson says. “In the same environment, Delta would spread from one person to maybe 3.5 or 4 other people.”

Australia virtually shutting its borders has probably averted disaster and saved the economy as well. Letting the guard down at times is not on and following China's example is needed to be carried on.

 

[qldfrog]

5 Things To Know About the Delta Variant

Delta was a highly contagious SARS-CoV-2 virus strain that was first identified in India, and also circulated in the United States and other countries. The vaccines have proven to be highly effective against Delta, but anyone who is unvaccinated is at risk for infection by the variant.

www.yalemedicine.org

“It’s actually quite dramatic how the growth rate will change,” says Dr. Wilson. Delta is spreading 50% faster than Alpha, which was 50% more contagious than the original strain of SARS-CoV-2, he says. “In a completely unmitigated environment—where no one is vaccinated or wearing masks—it’s estimated that the average person infected with the original coronavirus strain will infect 2.5 other people,” Dr. Wilson says. “In the same environment, Delta would spread from one person to maybe 3.5 or 4 other people.”

Australia virtually shutting its borders has probably averted disaster and saved the economy as well. Letting the guard down at times is not on and following China's example is needed to be carried on.

Just a simple science fact: deadly viruses will morth into more contagious and less lethal..you can read such postings i made more than a year ago,
natural evolution unless we..via lockdowns travel bans etc slow down the spread and give all mutations a chance, creating more deadly in the mix.
We can not eradicate this virus, and as it is not very lethal (and will not self estinguish)
We will have to learn to live with it, another flu.and the first one to realise this will win economically.As far as i know, it has been life as usual in china for a while now, and i doubt vaccination made the difference

 

[pozindustrial]

August 31st 2020

“If something bad happens down the road after we start giving this vaccine to hundreds of thousands of people if not millions, that could cast a profound shadow, not only over other COVID-19 vaccines that are being tested, but over vaccines generally, and it would fuel the vaccine-hesitant and anti-vaccine movement,” he said.

“One of the potential dangers if you prematurely let a vaccine out is that it would make it difficult, if not impossible, for the other vaccines to enroll people in their trial,” he said.

“We don’t though have any intention of using emergency use authorization to take a vaccine of suboptimal effect or an unproven vaccine, to bring it forward. That would be doing such a disservice here,” he said.

Above quotes are from this article: https://www.healthline.com/health-n...ine-too-early-could-cause-more-harm-than-good

Adverse reaction data from last week July 2021 - only USA

"Data released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) included 9,049 reports of deaths, across all age groups, following COVID vaccines — an increase of more than 2,000 compared with the previous week. The data comes directly from reports submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)."

I guess something bad has happened down the road.

 

[qldfrog]

August 31st 2020

“If something bad happens down the road after we start giving this vaccine to hundreds of thousands of people if not millions, that could cast a profound shadow, not only over other COVID-19 vaccines that are being tested, but over vaccines generally, and it would fuel the vaccine-hesitant and anti-vaccine movement,” he said.

“One of the potential dangers if you prematurely let a vaccine out is that it would make it difficult, if not impossible, for the other vaccines to enroll people in their trial,” he said.

“We don’t though have any intention of using emergency use authorization to take a vaccine of suboptimal effect or an unproven vaccine, to bring it forward. That would be doing such a disservice here,” he said.

Above quotes are from this article: https://www.healthline.com/health-n...ine-too-early-could-cause-more-harm-than-good

Adverse reaction data from last week July 2021 - only USA

"Data released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) included 9,049 reports of deaths, across all age groups, following COVID vaccines — an increase of more than 2,000 compared with the previous week. The data comes directly from reports submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)."

I guess something bad has happened down the road.

Science is so mistreated lately...
Under the name of science, utter rubbish wrapped as science is used for political or economic motives with Covid, global warming, or even things like plastic in sea.
A bit like stats, twist the narrative, omit bits here or there and you get what you want.
I think i remember a time where some scientists would raise and point to issues or integrity conflicts but now, they are working for politically biased employers, or corporation and speaking out means ended career and uber driving .look at the james cook saga here.
It will hit back on mankind..my feeling as i am obviously a "real" science believer..but i may be wrong