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The great thing about ASF … is that as traders/humans/regular people with regular problems, is that we can share our situations … and hopefully get support when the chips are down
Your above post is way more valuable than many may recognise at this point in time … simply because many would not have not been through what you have been through.
Hats off from me my friend …. I'd suggest that in the real/non cyber world … you and I would likely get along very well… Cheers.
Normally I would condense a long recent post before I comment/reply to it … however in this case I think it is not only important, but more importantly respectful to "replay" your complete post @greggles ….
For the record ….. A few months ago I (and many others at ASF) recognised the fantastic contribution that you offered Greg
Constant Stock reflection with some poignant and insightful commentary …. at a time when ASF needed said commentary because the "numbers" were diminishing, so well done on that alone
I could write a short story on your above comments …. but basically, I feel ALL your pain because I, and I suspect many others have been through circumstances which are likely similar … and in my own situation … almost finished me…….
However … like you, I'm still here…….. trading is just another reflection/recollection of our lives and experiences …….. Not everyone is fortunate enough to come out the other side relatively unscathed, however ….
The great thing about ASF … is that as traders/humans/regular people with regular problems, is that we can share our situations … and hopefully get support when the chips are down
Your above post is way more valuable than many may recognise at this point in time … simply because many would not have not been through what you have been through.
Hats off from me my friend …. I'd suggest that in the real/non cyber world … you and I would likely get along very well… Cheers.
That's still ego though, just a different form.I rejected consumerism almost completely. Instead of getting a high from buying something, I got a high from going on a hike in a national park with my wife.
That's still ego though, just a different form.
My working theory is that as the ego fades, material success becomes easier. There are some exceptions to this, like people who who gain wealth through dishonesty and control tactics, or people who work their fingers to the bone and save like crazy (neither looks like a good approach to me).
So you can still have the big TV!
Ego Death
In my late teens, twenties and thirties I thought I knew it all. I was supremely confident that I had all the answers. After all, I knew it all, how could I not? I think many, if not most, young men have similar attitude in our young buck years.
Then, in my forties, that facade began to crumble. Unfortunate circumstances led to me losing a lot of money due to my own stupidity and arrogance. Not long after that I lost my source of income. Then I was forced to conduct a more objective analysis of myself and I wasn't happy with what I saw. I was a middle-aged male with outdated qualifications who had skated through life far too easily and without making any plans whatsoever for possible catastrophic life events. I was entirely unprepared and felt like a failure. Feeling like a failure is one thing, but feeling like you've failed your loved ones is something far more devastating. I felt lost and adrift. What was I good at? What was my purpose? What am I going to do with the rest of my life? I had to re-examine everything from the ground up, including myself.
The first things I noticed was how much like my old man I had become in certain respects. It is true that nature and nurture are both important but the nature part comes from your parents DNA. For some reason I didn't start seeing this stuff until my forties, probably because when I was younger I was busy pretending to be someone else. Now I had no choice but to face myself: anxiety, issues with alcohol, inability to get too close to people, even those very close to me. It was like a ball of string unravelling. Once it started, nothing could stop it. I saw everything. Why do I have short legs and short arms? I started seeing how my siblings were also like our parents. I started thinking about genetic destiny and wondering if I had seen the best years of life and was now on the way down and out. It was a very confusing time and occurred just when I thought I had it all together.
It was as if my ego had died and was unable to be resuscitated. The old fella had finally croaked and now all that was left was this vastly complex, very imperfect human being that wasn't nearly as impressive nor as talented or intelligent as I once thought. The shine had well and truly come off.
So what did I learn? I learned never to put all your eggs in one basket. I learned not to mistake luck for talent. I learned to never believe my own propaganda. All it takes it one set of unfortunate circumstances for your whole life to start unravelling. I also learned to count your blessings. I had solid support and was grateful for it. But most of all I learned that ego is the greatest blind spot of all. An oversized ego is more of a liability than an asset. It's like joining a cult and losing all perspective. Your ego lies to you. It overlooks your flaws and weaknesses. It doesn't have your best interests at heart. Try to keep it in check, for your own sake.
These days I'm far more humble and objective. I realise how tentative life is and I remind myself every day of how lucky I am, but also how much of a work in progress I still am. I feel like I know less now than I did 25 years ago. I don't, of course, but I deluded myself into thinking I knew everything back then. Now I'm happy to face reality. I have far fewer opinions. I try to listen more than I talk. I second guess everything. There is very little in life I'm certain about any more but I'm happy to be that way. Being certain about things I shouldn't have has cost me a lot. I still plan ahead but I now take it one day at a time, one step at a time. And I watch where I put my feet.
this forums is getting a little too emotional, in a good way.
Thanks Barney.
The way I see it, life is all about evolving as a person
I think it was a quote on here and it is so very true.I think what happened to me can be best described as a massive change in priorities. What I thought I wanted, I actually didn't want. But it took a massive change in circumstances for me to realise that.
I'm not against consumerism, I just realised it's not for me. It doesn't make me happy. Being content with my situation in life does, so that's what I'm working on. I'm not there yet, but I'm making progress. That's my focus now.
Your argument appears to rely heavily upon the veracity of these statements.
1. Do you firmly believe them to be true?
2. If so, have you noticed how this does naught more, than provide further evidentiary support for the philosophy under discussion?
3. In my opinion, intellectual debate on this particular philosophy, whilst quite entertaining, tends to be self defeating.
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I think it was a quote on here and it is so very true.
Happiness is being happy with what you have.
I'm not just talking in a material way.
I agree with Skate:@Skate, as unusual, I do not understand. Some examples might help me, the definition of "desiring" and "Appreciating" are different as you mentioned.
- I desire the tall, brunette, 10 years younger than me as she will make me happy, but appreciate my wife for the life we have
"Happiness is ‘desiring’ what you have"
@Skate, as unusual, I do not understand. Some examples might help me, the definition of "desiring" and "Appreciating" are different as you mentioned.
Let me see if I can work this riddle out with an example for Happiness.
- I appreciate my wife, she makes me happy.
- I desire my wife, she makes me happy
- I desire the tall, brunette, 10 years younger than me as she will make me happy, but appreciate my wife for the life we have
- I desire a better life as it will make me happy
- I have a happy life and appreciate everything i have
I think it was a quote on here and it is so very true.
Happiness is being happy with what you have.
I'm not just talking in a material way.
maybe said simply:Well what's the difference ?
1. "Desire" is a deep feeling
2. "Appreciating" is acknowledging the worth of someone or something.
Well what's the difference ?
1. "Desire" is a deep feeling
2. "Appreciating" is acknowledging the worth of someone or something.
On this, I am in disagreement with both, Locke and Leibniz.1. Yes I do because in contradistinction to Locke's 'nothing is in the intellect that has not previously been in the senses' I agree with Leibniz's reply 'except the intellect itself'.
If belief precedes the manifestation of that which is believed, then all belief must logically be of the form (c), leaving both, (a) and (b), as empty sets.Knowledge that has objective supporting evidence comes in two forms: (a) empiricism and (b) synthetic a priori.
Faith, while certainly qualifying as knowledge, does not have an evidential base, (c)
So the concept of 'belief' that is currently under discussion can fall under either definition. You can believe due to (a) and (b) or (c). Many will believe using all three, which is fine.
I am surprised to see you state that, and am now wondering what our past few interchanges were truly about.2. You have yet to identify which 'philosophy' that [for you] is under discussion. For my part, it is epistemology. You have yet to identify any.
I am not certain that I correctly understand what it is you are saying here. My bases for favouring the viewpoint, that manifestation is a consequence of belief, have arisen from some direct personal experiences, of a more practical (as opposed to theoretical) nature.So as far as epistemology goes, yes, my comments/statements do accurately represent [thus far] epistemology. If you have a further basis for the causation and forming of a 'belief' through a philosophy, I'm open to discussion.
That's very good to know!3. I do not share your opinion.
Same here, and at times in quite shocking ways. For me the evidence for 'belief causing manifestation' has piled up enough for me to now routinely shift back and forth between the standard model of reality and this alternative one. However it will never be possible to prove/disprove perhaps even to oneself.My bases for favouring the viewpoint, that manifestation is a consequence of belief, have arisen from some direct personal experiences, of a more practical (as opposed to theoretical) nature.
It has occurred to me, that this excerpt from one of my earlier posts, might potentially hold some insight (at least in a metaphorical sense) for those market newcomers, eagerly analysing historical data, in the hope of finding a tradable edge....renders the matter subject to the perspicacity of the measurer.
A 100% correlation strength is higher than 50%.
A 100% probability (certainty) is higher than 50% probability(coin toss).
Entity A makes 3 consecutive coin tosses, returning a result of heads each time.
Entity B makes 3 consecutive coin tosses, returning a result of tails each time.
Entity C makes 6 consecutive coin tosses, returning 3 heads followed by 3 tails.
If entities A and B were each using a phony coin (i.e. a double headed and a double tailed, respectively), then the outcomes (100% heads, & 100% tails respectively) could indeed be expected to be correlated to the coins.
But what if there only existed a single coin, to be shared between the 3 of them (i.e. entities A, B and C)?
Alternatively, what if entity C was a composite of, entity A, using one coin, and entity B, using another?
Considering the above, just how dependable is the correlation between, correlation strength and causal probability?
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Tell us...but keep it simples please! If there's too much sophistication it can alienate people who might otherwise appreciate your ideas. People like me.What pitfalls does this metaphor highlight?
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