Dr. Haneef Damages Claim

[Prospector]

Otherwise, Haneef will be compensated with innocent taxpayers' money, and our glorious leaders won't give a rats.

Aint that the truth!

I had no problem with Haneef being held for a couple of days while he was being questioned. He should never receive compensation if it had stopped as soon as the real situation emerged. But the cancellation of his visa after all this, that is what comprises gross incompetence.

 

[awg]

I will venture an answer.

I would offer him an apology, a visa, pay his legals and $2million compensation

the main reason I would do this is a "commercial settlement".

He is a citizen of India, and they will be watching closely.

It seems like the Australian officials in charge of this matter ****#d up several points.

I believe Cornelia Rau got $2m, but the admin stuff-ups were not as severe in that case.

If it goes to trial, it will cost more than that, and on the available facts, he would probably win the case.

I dont know if he is "innocent" or not.

For Kevin Andrews to say he is exonerated is wicked

 

[chops_a_must]

I believe Cornelia Rau got $2m, but the admin stuff-ups were not as severe in that case.

lol wutt?

An Australian citizen got deported to a slum in the Phillipines.

I think she would have got much more had she pushed harder. But there is not the professional damages incurred either.

 

[Prospector]

lol wutt?

An Australian citizen got deported to a slum in the Phillipines.

I think she would have got much more had she pushed harder. But there is not the professional damages incurred either.

Wrong stuff up Chops! Cornelia spent time in a Detention Centre as a result of mental incapacity in Queensland (?) Another lady got shipped back to the Philippines - she was physically disabled.

 

[Glen48]

Howard was looking for an election winner no matter what, Ruddock et el should made to pay, i notices the Ex-Feds were keen to thrown money at Rau & her Fillo mate who didn't seem to comprehend what was going on and Rau saying she was not an Oz citizen.
Just another bailout supported by the ATO. At least the ACC is on to Storm to find out where the horse is after it has bolted.
Why do we keep voting for these people????

 

[chops_a_must]

Wrong stuff up Chops! Cornelia spent time in a Detention Centre as a result of mental incapacity in Queensland (?) Another lady got shipped back to the Philippines - she was physically disabled.

Ahh right...

There's just been so many...

 

[Uncle Barry]

Good afternoon,
People think a bit..please.

Did the Police do 'this' to the good Doctor for fun ?

At the time they had............................................
and were doing their best to protect you, me and all other Australians against a bomb type event here in this country of ours.

Got it,
doing their best,

And now if there had been a bomb in the Gold Coast hospital and it had killed a couple of hundred,
the same lot here giving money away would be then crying down the Police for not 'getting' the bad guy.

Sometimes,
there is just not enough evidence to place before a Jury to obtain a conviction.

And now before people carry on,
how about someone talk to the people at the Gold Coast hospital and get an understanding of the facts.

"Dr.Haneef was anything other than a doctor respected by the local community who actually knew him."

Does this feed your mind, was he ?

ps, I live on the Gold Coast and have friends who work within the hospital.

Kind regards,
UB
Please have a Safe and Merry Christmas, everybody.

 

[Macquack]

Re: Dr.Haneef Damages Claim

In the medical profession, reputation is everything. Lose it, and you're buggered, no matter what.

I cant see how his "professional" reputation was damaged. He was not accused of medical malpractice.

I say give him one full years salary of an ordinary Australian worker i.e. the average wage of $60,000 odd.

 

[chops_a_must]

Re: Dr.Haneef Damages Claim

Good afternoon,
People think a bit..please.

Did the Police do 'this' to the good Doctor for fun ?

Yeah, apparently they did.

The review showed them to be absolutely incompetent.

I cant see how his "professional" reputation was damaged. He was not accused of medical malpractice.

I say give him one full years salary of an ordinary Australian worker i.e. the average wage of $60,000 odd.

You've got to be kidding right?

I never said professional reputation, if you can read what you quoted me as saying.


The underlying racism when people discuss this issue astounds me...

 

[Macquack]

Re: Dr.Haneef Damages Claim

You've got to be kidding right?

I never said professional reputation, if you can read what you quoted me as saying.

Chops, your quote:-
"In the medical profession, reputation is everything. Lose it, and you're buggered, no matter what."

Sorry Chops, I will re-write what you meant to say
"In the medical profession, personal reputation is everything. Lose it, and you're buggered, no matter what."

 

[chops_a_must]

Nope. I meant it exactly as I said it.

Reputation, BOTH personal and professional is everything.

 

[Macquack]

Nope. I meant it exactly as I said it.

Reputation, BOTH personal and professional is everything.

Why not throw in "sporting" reputation.

Rumour has it, that he was a terrible golfer, in fact a "hacker".

Sorry, not allowed to say that, might affect his "reputation" compensation payout.

 

[chops_a_must]

Dude, when you splash across every media outlet in the country and probably the world, that a doctor is in violation of their most fundamental core values of operation, it does not matter if it is personal reputation or not.

Because it reflects badly on them in their job.

If I put in every paper in the country that the head of the AMA is a serial killer, child rapist and likes to kill puppies, you honestly, honestly believe that wouldn't reflect badly on his professional reputation? Of course it bloody well would. Stop being stupid. But, "oh no, it's only personal reputation so who cares right?"

And that's why reputation in the medical industry is so so much different to any other types of occupation.

If you present something as fact, that goes against the non-harm principle, or the hippopotamus oath, in regards to a doctor, it does not matter what it is in regards to, it does enormous damage.

Capiche?

 

[Macquack]

Dude, when you splash across every media outlet in the country and probably the world, that a doctor is in violation of their most fundamental core values of operation, it does not matter if it is personal reputation or not.

Because it reflects badly on them in their job.

If I put in every paper in the country that the head of the AMA is a serial killer, child rapist and likes to kill puppies, you honestly, honestly believe that wouldn't reflect badly on his professional reputation? Of course it bloody well would. Stop being stupid. But, "oh no, it's only personal reputation so who cares right?"

And that's why reputation in the medical industry is so so much different to any other types of occupation.

If you present something as fact, that goes against the non-harm principle, or the hippopotamus oath, in regards to a doctor, it does not matter what it is in regards to, it does enormous damage.

Capiche?

Dont know about you, but I try to treat all people equally (so dont pull the "rascism" card on me, "dude").

I could not care less if Haneef was a doctor or a toilet cleaner. A persons human rights were violated.

Do you have to be a "doctor" to "maximise" you compensation claim?

 

[chops_a_must]

Dont know about you, but I try to treat all people equally (so dont pull the "rascism" card on me, "dude").

I could not care less if Haneef was a doctor or a toilet cleaner. A persons human rights were violated.

Do you have to be a "doctor" to "maximise" you compensation claim?

You have to treat them as different.

His chances of working here as a cleaner again, if he was one, are pretty high. Working here again as a doctor? Forget about it.

Given one of the main criteria for compensation is loss of income, that is taken from income/ tax statements etc. it would help to be a doctor to maximise compensation. Especially if a judge deems his ability to return to work here is next to none, because of the cretinism of the AFP.

The payments for pain and suffering wouldn't make a difference no matter what his job was. But how much of the pain and suffering was due to the attention his status in the community brought?

So yes, in a lot of ways, they have to treat various people completely differently due to varying circumstances. It's enshrined in common law.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Dont know about you, but I try to treat all people equally (so dont pull the "rascism" card on me, "dude").

I could not care less if Haneef was a doctor or a toilet cleaner. A persons human rights were violated.

Do you have to be a "doctor" to "maximise" you compensation claim?

An excellent point mate.

What harm has been done specifically to him overall, in the grand scheme of things.

gg

 

[Knobby22]

He didn't lose his reputation permanently.

He did lose say 4 months pay - say $60,000
And there was some pain and suffering involved.

I would give him $110,000.

Knobby

 

[disarray]

why are we all falling over ourselves to please this guy? it's a tense time, there were some serious issues to be investigated and in managing the case we find another one of our bureaucrats turns out to be a complete idiot. wow a big shock there.

sacrifice some scapegoats, put some pressure on the departments responsible to tighten procedures, then send a polite public apology to the good doctor and reasonable payment (tens of millions pfft are you for real????) for the inconvenience. then wish him good luck in his adventures to some other first world country which would undoubtedly welcome him with open arms. or he could stay in india and devote his essential skills to the betterment of the hundreds of millions of his poor countrymen who daily suffer from poverty, discrimination and ill health. naah, i'll take skilled visa to the first world with the socialised welfare and family reunion option thanks.

i don't get all this and song and dance "maybe ill come to australia but i feel victimised and aussies are racist and i'll need compensation blah blah"? how about stfu and come back to work or piss off somewhere else? meanwhile fund our education system and train our own bloody medical professionals instead of funding generation after generation of welfare slugs.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

He didn't lose his reputation permanently.

He did lose say 4 months pay - say $60,000
And there was some pain and suffering involved.

I would give him $110,000.

Knobby

A mate who works as a doc in a similar hosptal says he would have been lucky to clear $30,000 over three months, so taking into account inflation which is at historical lows, I would suggest he get.

$30,125

Thats not bad for a bloke in his situation and it seems fair.

gg

 

[Knobby22]

A mate who works as a doc in a similar hosptal says he would have been lucky to clear $30,000 over three months, so taking into account inflation which is at historical lows, I would suggest he get.

$30,125

Thats not bad for a bloke in his situation and it seems fair.

gg

ABC is saying $50,000. Doesn't sound far off. Lawyers will get most of it.

Agree with you disaaray however if we start treating professionals from overseas badly it will backfire on us eventually and we like to think we give people a fair go.