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Re: Dr.Haneef Damages Claim

Are we under a cloud of suspicion for the things our distant cousins do now, gg? :banghead::banghead::banghead:

I say $$$ millions!!

Brad
 
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Garpal Gumnut said:
What quantum of damages should this cousin of an alleged terrorist be able to claim for his expeditious arrest and deportation from Australia when said cousin is alleged to have used his simcard, and partook in a terrorist act in the UK.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/12/23/2454095.htm?section=justin


I reckon $13,354

Any offers on this.

gg
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BradK said:
Are we under a cloud of suspicion for the things our distant cousins do now, gg? :banghead::banghead::banghead:

I say $$$ millions!!

Brad
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Garpal Gumnut said:
Ok Brad, we're talkin dollars here, how much?

gg
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If someone gave me $13,354 for being banged up in the Brisbane Watchouse for a few days I'd be ecstatic.

gg
 
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gg, I can only assume you're being ridiculous for the sake of being provocative.

Dr Haneef, imo, would have a righteous claim for tens of millions. It is much more about his personal humiliation, and damaged reputation, not to mention the extraordinary stress of the whole sorry affair, than any tenure in the watchhouse.

Pretty funny listening to Kevin Andrews this evening on "PM", insisting the report had exonerated him! He's one of the more pathetic of the ministers of the late Liberal government.

Looks as though Mick Keelty and ASIO might have a few questions to answer too which is a good thing.
 
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Julia said:
gg, I can only assume you're being ridiculous for the sake of being provocative.

Dr Haneef, imo, would have a righteous claim for tens of millions. It is much more about his personal humiliation, and damaged reputation, not to mention the extraordinary stress of the whole sorry affair, than any tenure in the watchhouse.

Pretty funny listening to Kevin Andrews this evening on "PM", insisting the report had exonerated him! He's one of the more pathetic of the ministers of the late Liberal government.

Looks as though Mick Keelty and ASIO might have a few questions to answer too which is a good thing.
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So what amount of dollars, what quantum, would you put on it.

More than $13,354?

gg
 
What happened to this Doctor, who was respected by the local community who actually knew him, was evil and a blight on our justice process. Certainly take him in for questionning, but for what happened after that tells us more about our racism than anything else. Weapons of mass destruction anyone?
 
Prospector said:
What happened to this Doctor, who was respected by the local community who actually knew him, was evil and a blight on our justice process. Certainly take him in for questionning, but for what happened after that tells us more about our racism than anything else. Weapons of mass destruction anyone?
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One of the blokes who ran the car full of explosives into Glasgow airport was a doctor respected by the local community who actually knew him.


But that is getting away from the point of the thread and I would not suggest on any evidence presented that Dr.Haneef was anything other than a doctor respected by the local community who actually knew him.

What I am asking on this thread, for those of us who didn't actually know him, is,.....................

As a foreign resident ( I'm unsure if he's entitled to residency in OZ) how much of our taxpayers money do you reckon he deserves in recompense for his travails in Brisbane.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
As a foreign resident ( I'm unsure if he's entitled to residency in OZ) how much of our taxpayers money do you reckon he deserves in recompense for his travails in Brisbane.

gg
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OK, a court will determine how much loss he incurred as a result. So look at his salary multiplied by 20 years say. If there is a personal damages claim, (eg character defamation) then for someone in a professional capacity whose reputation determines success, well, $5million.
 
Prospector said:
OK, a court will determine how much loss he incurred as a result. So look at his salary multiplied by 20 years say. If there is a personal damages claim, (eg character defamation) then for someone in a professional capacity whose reputation determines success, well, $5million.
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$5 million is a lot of dough.

His reputation doesn't seem to have suffered in his home town.

Can the quantum of damages be discounted for this.

$5 million seems on the high side.

gg
 
GG If what happens in his 'home town' was relevant, then he wouldnt have been practising medicine in Australia in the first place.

The fact is, he was in Australia, practising medicine in a community which was happy to support him, earning good money. He is taken by the Police for questionning, not a biggie in the overall scheme of things, he was then detained for days - getting bigger, the evidence concocted, then after that, his Visa is cancelled!:confused: Why!

In Australia, if a doctor's reputation is harmed, his career is over.

I thought $5million PLUS his salary for the next 20 years.
 
Haneef says he is owed damages because he is innocent. The problem is everyone is innocent until they commit a crime - so are we really saying we should just sit back and let people commit crimes (esp terrorism) and only arrest them after an atrocity?

If we (and in "we" I'm referring to society) don't think that a great strategy, then we're left with the real possibility that we will arrest someone who really wasn't going to commit an offence. It is all fine and dandy to look back in hindsight and declare that someone was not going to commit a crime, but in reality, given whatever evidence you have at your disposal, and no doubt some conflicting, it is a really difficult decision to make. Is it so terrible to get it wrong for the right reasons?

All I can think, is that if a person was a suspect terrorist, and authorities did nothing until they could get "concrete" proof, but in the meantime said person did commit an atrocity culminating in the terrible loss of life, how many of us would point the finger and say that they should have done "something" to prevent tragedy?

If, in the whole spectrum of terrorist atrocities, a few innocent people go through a "Haneef" episode, but significant lives are saved, is that so bad? And does that mean that the government (i.e. us) have to keep shelling out huge sums of money just for the privilege of trying to protect ourselves?
 
It would have been cheaper to pay him out.

February 18, 2008 - The Government is told the bungled Haneef investigation has cost taxpayers at least $7.5 million.

May 26, 2008 - AFP admit Haneef bill is in excess of $8.2 million and growing.
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It was one bungle after the other. Even if there was a chance of him being guilty of anything, the whole case was just too much of a mess in the end.

So $5mill is still less then what they tried to waste on convicting him
 
Government bureaucrats need to be sued personally. Only then will they stop foisting draconian laws on us.

Otherwise, Haneef will be compensated with innocent taxpayers' money, and our glorious leaders won't give a rats.
 

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