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Doesn't it simply convey the same message/appreciation as a Like button? That's certainly how I see it.+1 This, and the addition of a "dislike button", would be welcome additions for me. I also often would like to show my approval or agreement with a post, but think simply quoting it and adding +1 is a waste of space.
DocK, perhaps I've missed some of your posts but my impression is that you have often received considerable appreciation for your remarks which are invariably sensible and well considered. Without such input existing regular contributors will simply lose heart and go elsewhere. Yes, perhaps simpler to just avoid potential ramifications of any comment, but a shame. Discussion and debate is interesting and healthy. Often forces us to clarify or adjust our own established views. Just my thoughts, of course.Perhaps more to the point though is my reluctance to post an alternative view to those posters who are known to take poorly any criticism, real, implied or imagined. I've often started to post, and then thought better of it when I considered the never-ending arguments and requests to justify my view etc that would probably ensue, especially by some regular posters who often take every comment that doesn't coincide with their point of view as a personal attack.
I concur that DocK does good posts.... invariably sensible and well considered ...
+1 This, and the addition of a "dislike button", would be welcome additions for me. I also often would like to show my approval or agreement with a post, but think simply quoting it and adding +1 is a waste of space. Perhaps more to the point though is my reluctance to post an alternative view to those posters who are known to take poorly any criticism, real, implied or imagined. I've often started to post, and then thought better of it when I considered the never-ending arguments and requests to justify my view etc that would probably ensue, especially by some regular posters who often take every comment that doesn't coincide with their point of view as a personal attack. This is, of course, most common in the general chat threads.
So far as the stock threads are concerned, I've often turned to ASF to see what the general opinion of a company may be, only to find the most recent post on it to be months or years old. As a relative novice in trading/investing I'm loathe to be the one to ask what may be interpreted as a stoopid question - and I will try to overcome my fear of embarrassment in this regard.
Sadly, some of our best posters on stocks such as piggybank and springhill seem to have all but given up, making the situation even worse.
+1 This, and the addition of a "dislike button", would be welcome additions for me.
At the risk of offending DocK, +1. The new HC format is much better.However, I would be against the idea of a 'dislike' button. Hotcopper used to have a system where you could upvote or downvote a post, and it facilitated a very hostile environment. Now that they have recently changed to an upvote system without the option to downvote, it seems that the environment is a lot less hostile.
Such a good point. Whilst it's nice for people to passively agree with a post it's much better for them to progress the conversation by adding or querying a point.I feel like adding 'upvotes', while being an easy way of showing agreement or recognition for a post, could lead to hollower conversation as people go, "Yeah, that's close enough. It's not what I would have said, but it's close enough." and hit an upvote or like button. I think there may be a risk that you'd lose some engagement from the people that say, "While I largely agree, did you consider 'x'?".
I support the idea of a 'like' button, it shows support for the author of a post without any unnecessary posts. However, I would be against the idea of a 'dislike' button. Hotcopper used to have a system where you could upvote or downvote a post, and it facilitated a very hostile environment. Now that they have recently changed to an upvote system without the option to downvote, it seems that the environment is a lot less hostile.
Just thought of something.
A looooong time ago, I used to frequent a message board where they had a 'karma' system. You could get karma points for doing good things, like creating threads or receiving upvotes for your own posts. Karma was little green blocks underneath your name, and the more you had, the more credible you were deemed to be and with a better reputation.
It gave people some incentive to participate and come back to the forum, as everyone wanted to increase their own reputation. I guess you could say it was akin to an internet forum's version of reward points on a credit card.
The down side though is you might encourage 'too many' posts, which would lower the quality of posts in general.
It is noteworthy that once this particular forum removed the karma system, participation pretty much went down the drain.
At the risk of offending DocK, +1. The new HC format is much better.
Same here a dislike button IMHO would be a bad idea and be very negative: if you do not agree on a post at least explain why.
If it helps...
Isn't it possible to compliment the person in this instance who is maintaining the sensible posting style, thus making it clear you don't like the aggression displayed by the sparring partner? On 'interfering', it's a forum, there for people to contribute their responses where they want to. The likelihood of then incurring some negative feedback surely shouldn't be a deterrent to expressing a view?My reason for thinking of a "dislike" button was prompted by reading one of the more contentious threads where one contributor was doing their best to have a logical, reasoned discussion and was being met by vitriol and personal attacks by another poster. I would have liked to lend my support to one, while letting the other know that the tone of their posts was unwelcome - without actually buying into a thread that I had not been involved in, and without bringing down a torrent of abuse upon myself for interfering. Perhaps this makes me a bit of a coward, but to be frank the expectation of being "virtually harangued" does quite often make me wonder "why bother - I really don't need this type of feedback in my life, why invite it?" I wondered if a poster who was being quite disagreeable on a personal level (not simply disagreeing politely/respectfully with another) received several "dislikes" if that may get the message across to them that they'd gone too far?
With over 2000 companies listed on the ASX, I suppose the chance of someone else on a relatively small forum such as ASF following any particular company (except for some speccie gone wild etc) is not great.Sadly, a post I made on a stock thread last week has gone unanswered, and another two companies I looked at this morning also had posts that had not been responded to for some time - BXB & ICQ.
Folks, for the life of me, I cannot understand why people cannot disagree in good faith and still engage in a constructive discussion without personal attacks, accusations and people announcing they are leaving ASF for good.
Even if two people can't find any common ground, it is still easy to add someone to your ignore list and move on.
Surely if we treat each other with a basic level of courtesy and respect at all times this sort of thing can be avoided?
Joe, I have created this thread, put my neck on the line with live trades, spent hours of time providing in-depth analysis for the sake of beneficial conversation.
I am more than happy to agree to disagree with people. What I do not appreciate is blatent trolling, belittling myself and my trading methodology in a personal way.
Maybe the ignore list is an option as you said.
Folks, for the life of me, I cannot understand why people cannot disagree in good faith and still engage in a constructive discussion without personal attacks, accusations and people announcing they are leaving ASF for good.
Even if two people can't find any common ground, it is still easy to add someone to your ignore list and move on.
Surely if we treat each other with a basic level of courtesy and respect at all times this sort of thing can be avoided?
Folks, for the life of me, I cannot understand why people cannot disagree in good faith and still engage in a constructive discussion without personal attacks, accusations and people announcing they are leaving ASF for good.
Even if two people can't find any common ground, it is still easy to add someone to your ignore list and move on.
Surely if we treat each other with a basic level of courtesy and respect at all times this sort of thing can be avoided?
Ill answer this when I have time in your "Don't be afraid to post thread.''
Hard to believe I know but I have strong views on this and forums in general.
Folks, for the life of me, I cannot understand why people cannot disagree in good faith and still engage in a constructive discussion without personal attacks, accusations and people announcing they are leaving ASF for good.
Even if two people can't find any common ground, it is still easy to add someone to your ignore list and move on.
Surely if we treat each other with a basic level of courtesy and respect at all times this sort of thing can be avoided?
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