Donald Trump - Loud mouthed American Idiot

[moXJO]

So DJT and his MAGA mob used a valid system aka Ballot Harvesting to incite the steal, stolen, fraud, fake votes huh?

Uh huh, bit of a rubbish explanation. It's also not legal in a lot of states as it was being abused.

Pay a bunch of people to either register or collect votes. Then hit old people homes, non English speakers, or whatever politically ignorant group you can find.
Help them fill it in.
Drop box.

Plenty of idiots think our elections here are free from schemes. But it's not that hard and I've seen it a few times.

Run a political candidate that sounds similar to your opponent to leach his votes. Preference someone that is more friendly to you.
Main idea is to split his vote. It's happened. There's a few ways they game the system here.

 

[wayneL]

Lol, I've got a throw away line too. The earth is flat.

Non sequitur

Who fact checks the fact checkers, Komrade?

 

[Craton]

Uh huh, bit of a rubbish explanation. It's also not legal in a lot of states as it was being abused.

Pay a bunch of people to either register or collect votes. Then hit old people homes, non English speakers, or whatever politically ignorant group you can find.
Help them fill it in.
Drop box.

Plenty of idiots think our elections here are free from schemes. But it's not that hard and I've seen it a few times.

Like share trading and investing, one needs to educate oneself and change the apathy towards voting, well, at least in the more democratic areas of the world.
As evidenced by Russia, our vote is a precious thing.

Run a political candidate that sounds similar to your opponent to leach his votes. Preference someone that is more friendly to you.
Main idea is to split his vote. It's happened. There's a few ways they game the system here.

Oh and speaking of "gaming the system", that reminds me of Lauren O'Dwyer running for the Victorian seat of Richmond. She would have the public think that she identifies as a Yorta Yorta woman but:

A relative of a Victorian Labor candidate who has described herself as a "proud Yorta Yorta woman" has said their family has no Indigenous ancestry and has never identified as Aboriginal.

Further down in the article:

The ABC understands Ms O'Dwyer said her Indigenous heritage comes from her great-grandfather, Graham Berry.

"I've looked at her genealogy and there is nobody of the Berry family group within the Yorta Yorta genealogical line."

 

[Craton]

Non sequitur

Who fact checks the fact checkers, Komrade

DJT apparently.

 

[wayneL]

DJT apparently.

TDS?

 

[Craton]

TDS?

Ouch, now that hurts. There's quite a few that I've a far bigger disdain for.

 

[wayneL]

Ouch, now that hurts. There's quite a few that I've a far bigger disdain for.

I'm sure these "few" would be devastated to hear that

 

[basilio]

No more Mr Nice Guy from the Sun King. We know exactly what will happen if Donald Trump sweeps into power again.
He has declared he is the only man who can save America and the world.

And he will destroy anyone and everyone who stands in his way.

‘I am your retribution’: Trump rules supreme at CPAC as he relaunches bid for White House​

Former president claims Biden is leading America into ‘oblivion’ and that he could end the war between Russia and Ukraine (in one day..)

David Smith in Oxon Hill, Maryland

@smithinamerica
Sun 5 Mar 2023 12.52 AEDTLast modified on Sun 5 Mar 2023 15.17 AEDT


Donald Trump turned back the clock to the darkest elements of his presidency on Saturday with a fiery address that showed the threat to American democracy is far from over.

After a lacklustre start to his campaign, Trump appeared to launch his White House bid in earnest with a vintage display of demagoguery that framed the 2024 election as “the final battle” for America.

The former president, wearing dark suit, white shirt and trademark red tie, also declared war on his own Republican party to the delight of ardent fans in the crowd chanting “Trump! Trump! Trump!” and “USA! USA! USA!”

Trump rival Nikki Haley seeks support from Republicans ‘tired of losing’
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Opinion polls suggest that Trump’s grip on the party is slipping in the wake of the 6 January 2021, insurrection and a disappointing midterm performance. But he continues to rule supreme at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), billed as the biggest annual gathering of grassroots conservatives.

Feeding off the energy of a crowd that wore “Make America great again” (Maga) caps, and watched by Brazil’s far-right former president Jair Bolsonaro, Trump returned to the authoritarian language that characterised his political rise seven years ago.

“In 2016, I declared: I am your voice,” he said, speaking for just over 100 minutes from a bright blue and red stage in a cavernous ballroom at the closing speech of the CPAC event in Maryland. “Today, I add: I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed: I am your retribution,” he said.

‘I am your retribution’: Trump rules supreme at CPAC as he relaunches bid for White House

Former president claims Biden is leading America into ‘oblivion’ and that he could end the war between Russia and Ukraine

www.theguardian.com

 

[Knobby22]

No more Mr Nice Guy from the Sun King. We know exactly what will happen if Donald Trump sweeps into power again.
He has declared he is the only man who can save America and the world.

And he will destroy anyone and everyone who stands in his way.

‘I am your retribution’: Trump rules supreme at CPAC as he relaunches bid for White House​

Former president claims Biden is leading America into ‘oblivion’ and that he could end the war between Russia and Ukraine (in one day..)

David Smith in Oxon Hill, Maryland

@smithinamerica
Sun 5 Mar 2023 12.52 AEDTLast modified on Sun 5 Mar 2023 15.17 AEDT


Donald Trump turned back the clock to the darkest elements of his presidency on Saturday with a fiery address that showed the threat to American democracy is far from over.

After a lacklustre start to his campaign, Trump appeared to launch his White House bid in earnest with a vintage display of demagoguery that framed the 2024 election as “the final battle” for America.

The former president, wearing dark suit, white shirt and trademark red tie, also declared war on his own Republican party to the delight of ardent fans in the crowd chanting “Trump! Trump! Trump!” and “USA! USA! USA!”
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Trump rival Nikki Haley seeks support from Republicans ‘tired of losing’
Read more
Opinion polls suggest that Trump’s grip on the party is slipping in the wake of the 6 January 2021, insurrection and a disappointing midterm performance. But he continues to rule supreme at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), billed as the biggest annual gathering of grassroots conservatives.

Feeding off the energy of a crowd that wore “Make America great again” (Maga) caps, and watched by Brazil’s far-right former president Jair Bolsonaro, Trump returned to the authoritarian language that characterised his political rise seven years ago.

“In 2016, I declared: I am your voice,” he said, speaking for just over 100 minutes from a bright blue and red stage in a cavernous ballroom at the closing speech of the CPAC event in Maryland. “Today, I add: I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed: I am your retribution,” he said.

‘I am your retribution’: Trump rules supreme at CPAC as he relaunches bid for White House

Former president claims Biden is leading America into ‘oblivion’ and that he could end the war between Russia and Ukraine

www.theguardian.com

Nah, the soundtrack belongs to Greenday.

Don't wanna be an American idiot
Don't want a nation under the new media
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind-f**k America
Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alien nation
Where everything isn't meant to be okay
In television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones who're meant to follow
For that's enough to argue
Well, maybe I'm the faggot, America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
Now everybody, do the propaganda
And sing along to the age of paranoia

 

[sptrawler]

I'm betting on a LIV golf / Saudi corruption investigation next. Or maybe something creative like Trump and Desantis conspired to use federal hurricane disaster money to shore up protection of Mar-a-Lago?

Well it looks like Trump was right, yet again.

Money talks – the PGA Tour has surrendered and done what it said it would never do

The three-way merger between LIV Golf, the PGA Tour and Europe’s DP World Tour is an astonishingly shameless move that leaves Donald Trump looking like a true clairvoyant.

www.smh.com.au

So much for the soaring principles, then. So much for all the PGA Tour’s none-too-subtle efforts to paint the LIV Golf renegades as mercenaries complicit in the legitimising of a bloodthirsty Saudi regime.
For when presented with their own stark choice between taking Riyadh’s billions and staying steadfast in their morals, the main tours decide the morally defensible path is overrated. And so, after posturing as the decent brokers fighting against a rotten plot to split golf in two, they resolve that the simpler solution is, effectively, to let the Saudis annex the sport. Hypocrisy has seldom been so craven.

 

[farmerge]

Heard an interesting scenario the other day on radio.
If the Trumpet gets gaoled for 30 odd years for having files of all sorts at his palacial Florida mansion, and if he gets re-elected as POTUS while a guest in a House of Detention, could he as POTUS pardon himself out of the House of detention?
Now that would really take the cake and icing as well.

 

[sptrawler]

Heard an interesting scenario the other day on radio.
If the Trumpet gets gaoled for 30 odd years for having files of all sorts at his palacial Florida mansion, and if he gets re-elected as POTUS while a guest in a House of Detention, could he as POTUS pardon himself out of the House of detention?
Now that would really take the cake and icing as well.

What will be interesting IMO, is how many votes he gets if he is allowed to run, what if there was a landslide for Trump? That would put a cat among the pigeons.

 

[farmerge]

What will be interesting IMO, is how many votes he gets if he is allowed to run, what if there was a landslide for Trump? That would put a cat among the pigeons.

And the Trumpet would be blowing long and loud.

 

[basilio]

Heard an interesting scenario the other day on radio.
If the Trumpet gets gaoled for 30 odd years for having files of all sorts at his palacial Florida mansion, and if he gets re-elected as POTUS while a guest in a House of Detention, could he as POTUS pardon himself out of the House of detention?
Now that would really take the cake and icing as well.

Yeah that would be special.. A president is found guilty of taking Top Secret , National Security files out of the Oval office, moving them around a public place like Mars a Lago to hide them and then allowed to be President again ?

I wonder. If he was found guilty could a Judge explicitly state that Trump represented a clear and present danger to US National Security and should never have access to classified information again ?

 

[mullokintyre]

What will be interesting IMO, is how many votes he gets if he is allowed to run, what if there was a landslide for Trump? That would put a cat among the pigeons.

There are not too many things that prevent someone from running for president.
1. They have already served two terms as president.
2. They are not born American citizens.
3. They are less than 35 years old.
4. They have not been resident in the USA for at leat 14 years.
5. They have been impeached by congress and the house of reps.
No mention of felonies, serving jail time etc.
Mick

 

[IFocus]

Barr Trumps AG says if the charges are true Trump is toast

 

[Knobby22]

There are not too many things that prevent someone from running for president.
1. They have already served two terms as president.
2. They are not born American citizens.
3. They are less than 35 years old.
4. They have not been resident in the USA for at leat 14 years.
5. They have been impeached by congress and the house of reps.
No mention of felonies, serving jail time etc.
Mick

Yes , amazing but true.

The President is basically a King, but only for the term. Able to do almost anything a King could do at that time in history when the Republic was created.

I am sure if jailed he could forgive himself and really damage the careers of anyone involved.

It's really quite incredible to us Aussies with our PMs who have very little personal power.

 

[mullokintyre]

Yes , amazing but true.

The President is basically a King, but only for the term. Able to do almost anything a King could do at that time in history when the Republic was created.

I am sure if jailed he could forgive himself and really damage the careers of anyone involved.

It's really quite incredible to us Aussies with our PMs who have very little personal power.

I have always been of the opinion that there are too many rules and regulations.
As has been seen so many times in the past, political ar$eholes will use the system to eliminate opponents.
There fewer opportunities are given , the better the system is.
Elimination should be left to the only section that matters, the voting public.
Governments are there for the people, not the political parties.
Mick

 

[Knobby22]

I have always been of the opinion that there are too many rules and regulations.
As has been seen so many times in the past, political ar$eholes will use the system to eliminate opponents.
There fewer opportunities are given , the better the system is.
Elimination should be left to the only section that matters, the voting public.
Governments are there for the people, not the political parties.
Mick

The theory is great however in the USA public officials are elected by the people.
Judges chosen by the peoples elected representatives etc.
It used to work fine.

Seems these days to lead to everyone having to pick a side to get ahead and polarisation.

I think our system though also flawed is better. Judges are kept separate and picked out for most things by the legal profession. Public servants are hopefully chosen for ability and are independent (Yes Minister).

Unfortunately our politicians are surreptitiously trying to affect both these areas in Australia but at least they don't have the right to do it!

 

[wayneL]

The theory is great however in the USA public officials are elected by the people.
Judges chosen by the peoples elected representatives etc.
It used to work fine.

Seems these days to lead to everyone having to pick a side to get ahead and polarisation.

I think our system though also flawed is better. Judges are kept separate and picked out for most things by the legal profession. Public servants are hopefully chosen for ability and are independent (Yes Minister).

Unfortunately our politicians are surreptitiously trying to affect both these areas in Australia but at least they don't have the right to do it!

The big problem in both countries is a feckless electorate, incapable of grasping arguments outside of those fed to them by their own echo chamber.

Reasonable debate is dead.