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Does Gillard inspire confidence?

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Calliope said:
She has to pretend to believe in an ETS to get Bob Brown on side. His preferences are going to count.
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Julia convinced Big Kev to drop his ETS scheme, but does that mean she is against global warming action?

I expect she'll win the election and but I can't for the life of me figure out exactly what her view on global warming is. The voters seem more concerned with the mining tax and the boat people....
 
noco said:
It would appear our new Prime Minister is very vulnerable indeed and may still have a battle on her hands to retain power.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...t-new-management/story-e6frg6zo-1225887763530
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This excerpt from the above article sums it up very nicely, IMO of course - lol

"A tackle shop owner in the seaside town of Eden on the NSW south coast summed this up when he told the Liberal candidate, David Gazard:
'Mate, same smelly feet. Just a different pair of socks.'"
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
He was a good dog from memory, Calliope, why did you call him Machiavelli?

gg
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Because he manipulated me and everyone else he came across with his charm. :)

Do you know what gg? I woke up the other day and decided that it doesn't matter much what the colour of the government is. I have adopted Dr Pangloss's philosophy in reverse;

Everything happens for the worst under the worst of all possible governments.
 
Calliope said:
Because he manipulated me and everyone else he came across with his charm. :)

Do you know what gg? I woke up the other day and decided that it doesn't matter much what the colour of the government is. I have adopted Dr Pangloss's philosophy in reverse;

Everything happens for the worst under the worst of all possible governments.
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Too right comrade, too right.
Anarchism will out in the end.

gg
 
It's Snake Pliskin said:
For us dunces who are not Latin inclined could you translate that and what it is about? Thanks with love.:)
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Bit harsh there Snake old chap to be labelling the proletariat "dunces" don't you think? The Latin was in response to the lockhart post about respecting the PM purely due to obtaining office. No problems with that but in the way the faceless men assassinated the incumbent I was reminded of another famous bit of Latin "et tu Brute?" ... It was beautiful to watch and very clinical they way the excised Kevin Rudd from the top job. Now I know it is a long bow to compare Caesar to Rudd but if the shoe fits?

Gillard is making all the right emotive noises to retain power. Mining Tax - dealt with in hers and the medias eyes. Next stop .... Boat People. Her handlers have a very savvy grasp of the mood of the nation and are releasing the manna from heaven in the right dosage for the unrepresented swill to stomach. :2twocents
 
Fair suck of the sauce bottle noco. What I did in 1983 when I was a young radical should not be used against me now that I am older and wiser. Not that I am a PM or anything in the public spotlight with a history similar to Julias that is. Remember she is a LABOR PM and must have a history in Socialism and or Unionism to be counted as one of the bretheren. I think Andrew Bolt is a journalist of some specific leanings that do not agree with the Labor idealogy somehow.

GOSH ...... can't believe I just defended a Labor PM ! :banghead: She is allegedly tackling the Asylum Seekers debacle by threatiening to send the Afghanis and Sri Lankans back to whence they came. Surely this must be seen as a good thing and far from the "early" political leanings she showed?
 
trainspotter said:
Fair suck of the sauce bottle noco. What I did in 1983 when I was a young radical should not be used against me now that I am older and wiser. Not that I am a PM or anything in the public spotlight with a history similar to Julias that is. Remember she is a LABOR PM and must have a history in Socialism and or Unionism to be counted as one of the bretheren. I think Andrew Bolt is a journalist of some specific leanings that do not agree with the Labor idealogy somehow.

GOSH ...... can't believe I just defended a Labor PM ! :banghead: She is allegedly tackling the Asylum Seekers debacle by threatiening to send the Afghanis and Sri Lankans back to whence they came. Surely this must be seen as a good thing and far from the "early" political leanings she showed?
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Trainspotter, what you and I did as young fellows was most likely not related to politics. Ms. Gillard is desperately trying to distance herself from the socialist left because she knows she will have a better chance in the middle. Don't lets kid ourselves Ms. Gillard is very crafty and will undoubtedly swing back to the left to appease the radical unions if she gets into power. You cannot change the spots on a leopard.

I think she is looking after her own back side. She is politically motived to wipe the slate claen before the election. She is making out she is a pollie of action and is aware of public opinion on asylum seekers.

Her deal with the miners is reported already to be in trouble whereby her loss of $1.6 billion in the budget is more likely to be $4billion.

I have met similar women in business like her over the years and some would lie and connive just get what they wanted.
 
noco said:
Trainspotter, what you and I did as young fellows was most likely not related to politics. Ms. Gillard is desperately trying to distance herself from the socialist left because she knows she will have a better chance in the middle. Don't lets kid ourselves Ms. Gillard is very crafty and will undoubtedly swing back to the left to appease the radical unions if she gets into power. You cannot change the spots on a leopard.
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I'm not sure that's necessarily true, noco. Most of us went through that radical stage, where we could only think in extremes. Age generally mellows us and allows us to see the world a little more objectively.
No reason why Ms Gillard should be any different from the rest of us.


Or alternatively, she may have concluded that now she's PM, she has a responsibility to take a more middle-of-the-road position in order to provide what the electorate at large is looking for. Nothing wrong with that if she sticks to whatever she promises.

I think she is looking after her own back side. She is politically motived to wipe the slate claen before the election. She is making out she is a pollie of action and is aware of public opinion on asylum seekers.
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Sure, and you wouldn't expect her to do otherwise. I think the general public is smarter than you might imagine.

Her deal with the miners is reported already to be in trouble whereby her loss of $1.6 billion in the budget is more likely to be $4billion.
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That sounds a bit more like it. Pretty hard to see how, with all the concessions made, the government could only be down 1.5 billion.
 
Julia said:
Or alternatively, she may have concluded that now she's PM, she has a responsibility to take a more middle-of-the-road position in order to provide what the electorate at large is looking for.
I think the general public is smarter than you might imagine.
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She is as cunning as a sewer rat. I would say the general public is more gullible than ASF members, and there are signs on this thread that her spin is working.
 
It's a challenge for any individual to change long held ideological beliefs.

Group ideology is much more difficult again.
 
Ms Gillard is as flash as a rat with a gold tooth :D
She is one very sly dog, at this stage I have no doubt in my mind that she will win the next election before she even calls an election
Julia is way too cunning for Tony ...that's my free tip
But beware of the gutter rat, it will come out and maul you when your asleep :eek:
 
noco said:
Andrew Bolt asked the question has Julia Gillard left her past behind? Or maybe it is still clinging to her like a leech!
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Rudd thought he was the smartest guy in the room, but any lawyer can tell you, they are actually the smartest. Fertile profession for intellectual vanity. The powers that be will one day turn on her, as they turned on Rudd, and we'll see how well that self-satisfied smirk sticks.
I'd be happier with Gillard if she would go out and work in a road gang for a year, or run a small business, anything to be more connected to real life. It might strip away some of that ideological purity, which few doubt will reappear after the election. Shudder.
 
Calliope said:
She is as cunning as a sewer rat. I would say the general public is more gullible than ASF members, and there are signs on this thread that her spin is working.
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She is good at dangling the carrot in front of the donkeys. She has an ulterior motive without a shadow of a doubt. She looks good in a lot of people's eyes but only if one could read what is in the back of her mind. I can't help being suspicious with this new Prime Minister of ours. Time will tell if I'm right or wrong.

I'd like to know more about this 'MY SUPER'. What's in it for the Government? Why are they starting to do a hard sell? Do they intend making use of that super while it is limbo?
 

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