Are there any adults here ?
No but interesting watching the women haters apply their double standards whats the word?
Misogyny
Party poling has show men will not forgive women poly's but male poly's get another chance or two Howard proved the point I think.
No but interesting watching the women haters apply their double standards whats the word?
Misogyny
Party poling has show men will not forgive women poly's but male poly's get another chance or two Howard proved the point I think.
Nonsense. He was continuously pejoratively referred to as "Little Johnnie".Very true. Maybe I'm starting to believe the saying "women have to do twice as much as men to be considered half as good".
Julia Gillard is about as sexy as a woman as John Howard is as a man, yet we get continual debates about her attractiveness (or lack of it), the way she dresses and other rubbish. At least Howard was judged solely on his performance.
No but interesting watching the women haters apply their double standards whats the word?
Misogyny
Party poling has show men will not forgive women poly's but male poly's get another chance or two Howard proved the point I think.
If you are seriously suggesting Julia Gillard is being judged more harshly because of her gender, you are even more of an uncritical ALP disciple than I'd imagined.
I am seriously suggesting that, and your failure to realise it is evidence of your political bias.
John Howard didn't have mocking shows like "At Home with Julia" made about him, so why make them about Gillard ?
I am seriously suggesting that, and your failure to realise it is evidence of your political bias.
John Howard didn't have mocking shows like "At Home with Julia" made about him, so why make them about Gillard ?
I didn't care for "At Home with Julia" myself as I prefer to see the office of PM treated with a little more dignity, regardless of who is occupying it at the time. I do, however, clearly recall several satires and caricatures of John Howard over the many years that he held the office, on shows such as Full Frontal, the Chasers etc. I used to get a great laugh out of some of the cartoons etc - and I voted for him! We live in a world where politicians are regarded as "fair game" for comedic purposes, regardless of their sex. How often was Howard shown in the legendary Aussie tracksuit? Or Hawke's eyebrows exagerated to get a laugh? Or Keating's nose lengthened? If I were a politician I'd feel almost a reverse sexism if I were not given the same treatment simply because I'm female - sometimes equality means copping the same criticisms, peurile as they may be.
(PS I'm not looking forward to all these numerous Julie threads going to the next election. It feels like some have a fixation.)
Indeed. And +1 on your top statement above.Gender is irrelevant. Performance and respecting voters is everything, imo.
PS - I have never liked power hungry incompetent feminists and I suspect there are many other females out there who would agree with me...
So right. I've spoken to women who have been so ultra feminist that they have actually admitted they will vote for her regardless of what sort of job she does.The female effect can work both ways. I'm sure there are some people like Knobby22's dad who wouldn't vote for Gillard because she is a woman but there are also some who vote for her because she is a woman. Remember all the hype about having 'our first female Prime Minister'? I know some people who thought it was great that we had a female PM and this definitely affected how they voted.
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And Rumpole, didn't you describe this or similar thread as puerile?
Really? And btw 'Little Johnnie' was taller than Bob Hawke. Which PM last year called Christopher Pyne a 'poodle'. When Labor appeals to 'Working Families' to prevent 'Abbott, Abbott, Abbott', do you think there's a subtle sub-text at play....At least Howard was judged solely on his performance.
Really? And btw 'Little Johnnie' was taller than Bob Hawke.
I don't think the female effect is strong but doesn't she have a lower rating among males than females?
If "Little Johnny" was the worst he had to put up with the press went very easy on him.
As some later posters stated, it cuts both ways. That statement would equally be correct but portray almost the opposite meaning if you framed it as:
I don't think the female effect is strong but doesn't she have a higher rating among females than males?
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