Does Gillard inspire confidence?

Mr Z · 14 August 2010

Julia said:
Great summary, Mr Z. Governments, sadly, have little interest in anything other than their short term survival.

I agree, I find the short term outlook frustrating. Of course we elect the government we deserve and if we are silly enough to have our loyalties bought with promises funded by raiding the productive, well, then there is little hope. We need a decent economic education as a fundamental part of our upbringing, IMO it should be mandatory that you at least gain a basic understanding of the system that feeds you. It's not really in governments interest to let that happen but IMHO it would be a decent step toward 'keeping the bastards honest'.... then maybe small business would get a little more respect..... nah, I think I am dreaming! Oh well, you have to have hope!

Mr Z · 14 August 2010

Calliope said:
The audience at Rooty Hill certainly had no confidence in her. I'm not surprised they laughed at her

I've not been there in a long while but that kinda surprise me. I would have thought they would be more supportive of her.

wayneL · 14 August 2010

Mr Z said:
Government and we need to accept that the best thing they can do is stay out of the way, in most all cases this will produce a better result.

As mad as it sounds, if you look at the total of our economy letting banks and these large enterprises fail is the shortest way out of the woods. Yes the damage short term is greater but the net damage longer term is less and the economy will bounce back healthier faster than you would think is possible. The way we do things today is more palatable politically but its rife with moral hazard and ensures that the culprits actually have a chance to continue their bad habits. It works against one of the basic tenants of capitalism, against one of the things that makes it work, failure is apart of the process of efficiently distributing resources, failure is the market telling you you are have it wrong. The fact is we are punishing the people in our economy who are doing the fundamentally correct thing and rewarding those that are not.

Oh kaloo kalay, oh hip hip hooray, someone with a brain!

I have been saying the same thing for years on here... in fact an Austrian bust should have happened 2003-2005. The price would have been less and in all likelihood, western economies would be chugging along quite nicely right now.

Mr Z · 14 August 2010

Hi Wayne!

Yeah I agree... actually I would have rather seen in happen in the early 90's. We had an opportunity then to reset and stabilize then with minimal damage but instead we cracked open the hooch and went for it (globally speaking). When those Americans start up its hard not to get dragged into into the party. Hey, its been a good party, we should not really complain about the aftermath.... but somehow I think we will. Payback is never fun!

Discovering the Austrian School was a revelation to me, finally economics that made sense! I would encourage anyone to visit mises.org and start reading, pennies will drop and things will become clear.... I can assure people of that much.

Wayne its nice too see people with an Austrian bent around here! Kinda gives me hope! Now if I could import Mr Schiff and get him into politics here I would be happy!

sails · 17 August 2010

She's been caught out with this one:

Full story: The hidden truth behind the PM's 'impromptu' speech

As Gillard took the stage, a thick sheaf of typed papers was discreetly placed upon the podium by a stagehand crouching almost out of sight. A video camera and The Sydney Morning Herald's chief photographer, Andrew Meares, captured the moment when the staffer slipped the papers into place.

Logique · 18 August 2010

Nice work Sails.

Going back to the theme of this thread, does Ms Gillard inspire confidence?

>>Secret notes at the launch, pretending to extemporize = phony; show-boating intellectual vanity (not uncommon in the legal profession)

>>Only willing to interact or debate on her terms = arrogant, and a little bit of a control freak, a la Rudd. For a national leader, everything can't always be contrived and scripted, there isn't always time for focus groups and a random 150 people from the phone book. Or time to ask the unions and the factions what to do.

>>Gillard has not in my opinion resolved the key question: is she genuinely intelligent and visionary, or just a dill with a photographic memory for pre-prepared scripts? A leader with true resolve, or just a power hungry slave to the opinion polls?

Sorry unions and ALP back room boys, but 'Mr Rabbit' scores better than your girl.

Logique · 20 August 2010

Inflammatory stuff Noco.

Once again in these pages I repeat, the parallels with former NZ PM Helen Clark are eerie. Re-engineer, re-distribute, deconstruct.

How insulting to voters intelligence is the desperate mendacity of the 11th hour claims by Labor and the Greens - a vote for Abbott they say, is 'an attack on groceries', 'a vote for work choices', an 'attack on national broadband'.

On and on the falsehoods go.

noco · 20 August 2010

Logique said:
Inflammatory stuff Noco.

Once again in these pages I repeat, the parallels with former NZ PM Helen Clark are eerie. Re-engineer, re-distribute, deconstruct.

How insulting to voters intelligence is the desperate mendacity of the 11th hour claims by Labor and the Greens - a vote for Abbott they say, is 'an attack on groceries', 'a vote for work choices', an 'attack on national broadband'.

On and on the falsehoods go.

Gillard has become so repetitive in the last days of this election campaign she is like cracked record, in particular she keeps flogging the dead horse on WORK CHOICES.

overhang · 20 August 2010

noco said:
Gillard has become so repetitive in the last days of this election campaign she is like cracked record, in particular she keeps flogging the dead horse on WORK CHOICES.

It’s so desperate how they keep resorting back to this mundane line about work choices. Even if Abbott still supports work choices he knows it would be suicide at the next election to revive it.

Calliope · 20 August 2010

noco said:
Gillard has become so repetitive in the last days of this election campaign she is like cracked record, in particular she keeps flogging the dead horse on WORK CHOICES.

Yes, so many lies. She is becoming increasingly desperate.

sails · 20 August 2010

What makes Gillard think her policies are any better than Bligh's... They are both labor - what part of labor doesn't Gillard understand. It's federal labor that lost it's way too.

The Prime Minister is battling vote's dissatisfaction with state governments in NSW and Queensland, and fears that some people may not be distinguishing between state and federal issues

- then she goes on and on bagging Abbott....grrr

Full article:
Gillard worried Queenslanders protesting against state premier Anna Bligh might cost Labor the federal election

sails · 13 October 2010

I didn't realise just how tiny and unusable these tuckshops really were:

The Healthy Kids Association general manager, Jo Gardner, described the buildings as unsuitable for producing healthy food on a mass scale.
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''The standards being implemented by the state Department of Education and Training in new and refurbished canteens are grossly inadequate,'' she said.

''They do not meet opportunities for schools to efficiently and effectively deliver fresh food - they have inadequate bench space; they don't have wash-up sinks that are of a commercial nature. The push is very heat-and-serve.'

http://www.smh.com.au/national/600000-school-tuckshops-are-unusable-20100918-15h4h.html

moXJO · 13 October 2010

sails said:
I didn't realise just how tiny and unusable these tuckshops really were:

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http://www.smh.com.au/national/600000-school-tuckshops-are-unusable-20100918-15h4h.html

Lol
One thing I do know is that these things would be the last thing standing after a bomb blast.

Julia · 13 October 2010

moXJO said:
Lol
One thing I do know is that these things would be the last thing standing after a bomb blast.

Would they? Why?
(Or am I being too literal again?)

moXJO · 14 October 2010

Julia said:
Would they? Why?
(Or am I being too literal again?)

They over spec'd on most of the material, just in case you want to land a plane on them. So at least they are built to last.

sails · 14 October 2010

lol - nice to know they are aeroplane proof - but what about no bench space for food preparation. More likely to need bench space than be a bomb shelter with standing room only for very few... From the same article:

But Louise Appel, secretary of the Parents and Citizens' Association at Orange Grove Public School, which received the same canteen, said the design was flawed.

''They told us that this was the standard design and I would say, 'But read my lips - there is no bench space,' '' Ms Appel said. ''What sort of standard design for a canteen has no food preparation space?''

moXJO · 14 October 2010

sails said:
lol - nice to know they are aeroplane proof - but what about no bench space for food preparation. More likely to need bench space than be a bomb shelter with standing room only for very few... From the same article:

When Armageddon hits....Tuckshop mum is well protected

I actually saw one of these on site a few weeks back. I thought it was an overly small storage shed. I lol when I was told it was a tuckshop.

Julia · 14 October 2010

moXJO said:
They over spec'd on most of the material, just in case you want to land a plane on them. So at least they are built to last.

Oh, I see. Thank you for that explanation moXJO.
So very reassuring.
I will now know where to go when disaster is imminent.
(just so long as not too many other people have the same idea, it would seem!)

Seriously, with a bit of insistence, we might still see a Royal Commission into the BER. So far Gillard & Co have got away too lightly with this inestimable waste of taxpayer dollars.

sails · 14 October 2010

When my kids were primary school age, I did my bit to help in the tuckshop. It's a busy place. Preparing a variety of foods and having it ready to go for the masses when the bell rings is quite challenging. The tuckshops I have been in have been quite large and, even then, space was a challenge with all varieties of food, including hot food coming out of warmers and being placed into the appropriate paper bags.

How on earth a tiny little box like that could be classed as "standard design" for a tuckshop is unbelievable! Maybe a dolls house?

Mofra · 15 October 2010

Julia said:
Seriously, with a bit of insistence, we might still see a Royal Commission into the BER. So far Gillard & Co have got away too lightly with this inestimable waste of taxpayer dollars.

You mean 7 Royal commissions - one for each state, and another for the terroitories. The States rolled the program out, Feds simply supplied the funding. NSW would be interesting, the majority of blatant waste occurred in NSW alone.

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