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SirRumpole said:
I don't see why you are so hyped up about Kavanaugh bas, it's all happening in another country, zero relevance to us here at the bottom of the world.
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One of the most corrupt and dangerous Presidents of the most powerful country in the world is determined to appoint a Supreme Court judge for the next 30 years who is under a sexual abuse cloud. His political party is also determined to go ahead with the nomination.

This applicant has also indicated that he believes a sitting President should not have to face any criminal accusations while in office.

The applicant will change the balance of power in the Supreme Court to a very conservative bent.

How completely corrupt does the juduciall/politicial system of the USA have to be before we become concerned ? What message does this send around the world ?

No problems there ?
 
SirRumpole said:
Not for us.

I'm assuming you are Australian, if not I apologise.
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Sure I'm Australian. But I hope I can see beyond our borders and recognise the influence of a country as powerful as the US.
Probably more important is recognising how getting away with such a breathtaking abuse of power gives a green light to other similar demagogues.
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The accepted theory behind appointments to the Supreme Court is that candidates have an excellent knoweldge of the law but are seen as reasonably impartial in their deliberations. Inside this framework political parties angle to put in Justices who see the world in broadly their light.

In this case the candidate has -
1) Already indicated that he is willing to protect the President from any crimininal charges
2) A big problem relating to a credible series of sexual abuse accusations.

In any other situation he should be withdrawn from consideration and another (conservative) candidate proposed. But not today.
 
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basilio said:
............ ? No surprise really for Tisme.
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I have a 7 foot ladder here if you have trouble getting on your high horse Bas;)

Here's a tool you might find useful when starting an argument:




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wayneL said:
The left has opened Pandora's Box, watch what happens next.
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But only people who have escaped the mind stupefying, virulent contagion that is sweeping the western world will be able to recognise it. We are nearing our Thermopylae moment.
 
Tisme said:
I have a 7 foot ladder here if you have trouble getting on your high horse Bas;)

Here's a tool you might find useful when starting an argument:

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Tisme decides to conflate a hot slap and tickle session with a violent sexual assault to muddy the waters.
Opening gambit 101 of defense lawyers in sex trials.

But it did bring up some previous memories which relate to the conversation.

Years ago we had some tough little alpha male year 9 boys who thought it was great sport to flush new year 7 kids heads in the dunnies. It was always difficult to pin anything on them because the kids were terrified and mortified and knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the little xhits would belt the hell out of them if they spoke up.

One day however we found a poor tyke hystericial, sopping wet and with xhit in his hair. Turns it he was flushed but because he was really special (a bit of a swot actually) one kind soul did a really sloppy dump before the push and flush. Nice stuff.

The money shot however was in the interviews. "It wuz jus a joke Sir !!" Bit like a slap and tickle really.
 
basilio said:
Tisme decides to conflate a hot slap and tickle session with a violent sexual assault to muddy the waters.
Opening gambit 101 of defense lawyers in sex trials.

But it did bring up some previous memories which relate to the conversation.

Years ago we had some tough little alpha male year 9 boys who thought it was great sport to flush new year 7 kids heads in the dunnies. It was always difficult to pin anything on them because the kids were terrified and mortified and knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the little xhits would belt the hell out of them if they spoke up.

One day however we found a poor tyke hystericial, sopping wet and with xhit in his hair. Turns it he was flushed but because he was really special (a bit of a swot actually) one kind soul did a really sloppy dump before the push and flush. Nice stuff.

The money shot however was in the interviews. "It wuz jus a joke Sir !!" Bit like a slap and tickle really.
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Conflation of facts requires at least two of them...there are missing elements in your argument = verifiable facts....

I'm not sure what royal flushing has to do with Brett Kavanaugh ... is that the latest testimonial from another false memory syndrome victim looking for 15 minutes of fame and book deal?
 
CrewBear said:
This is always going to be a difficult one

As a young drunken teenage boy trying to grab a girl for a fumble, they’ll be a lot of men that have fallen into that category, ashamed of their actions. But this doesn’t reflect who they are now.

That said that doesn’t make this okay.
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Tisme said:
And yes every young man who finds himself in a slap and tickle situation has his mother in one ear and wee willy in the other. I don't know if ashamed is the right word, more confusion, blurred awareness and a trepidation that disappears when the girl turns up for more of the same..... validation of manliness right there:rolleyes:
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luutzu said:
Man, you must have hang out with the wrong kind of crowd to generalise like that about teenage boys or men.

I don't know teenage boy or grown men who gets drunk and "grab a girl for a fumble"... and not either be beaten up or be taken to court when they're seen doing it.

She alleged that as a 15 year old girl at a friend's party, on her way to a bathroom upstairs she was pushed into a bedroom; the door was locked behind her with two males turning up the music, laughing their azzes off as one of them got on top of her, trying to get her clothes off to rape her.

That's attempted rape, it would have been rape if the other douche didn't also jumped on and she managed to get away when the rapist fell over.

That's not "a fumble".
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Tisme, everybody knows what you were trying to do with your use and support of the "slap and tickle" comment to muddy the waters on the alleged sexual assault

It's relation to the hystericial kid with xhit in his hair ? "It wuz just a joke sir !!"
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And is this another "false memory testimony " ? xuck off. I had to deal with it. Good result actually. Finally nailed the smarmy little xhit who thought it was "just a joke" to flush his young schoolmates in a xhitty toilet.
 
basilio said:
Tisme, everybody knows what you were trying to do with your use and support of the "slap and tickle" comment to muddy the waters on the alleged sexual assault

It's relation to the hystericial kid with xhit in his hair ? "It wuz just a joke sir !!"
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And is this another "false memory testimony " ? xuck off. I had to deal with it. Good result actually. Finally nailed the smarmy little xhit who thought it was "just a joke" to flush his young schoolmates in a xhitty toilet.
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Me muddy the waters? Just about everything you post includes links and facsimiles of unrelated diatribe to the core issues. You drown out any clarity with sheer volume of non peer reviewed opinion pieces.

In some sand stone universities there is tradition of debating against your own conditioning ... you might like to try it sometime.
 
I dislike misandrists and their very vocal march as much as anyone, but I'll defend anyone who is the victim of a grave injustice.
Too much of this strikes me as being wrong and this Christine Ford strikes me as telling the truth, and this Brett Kav and Donald Trump as being absolute scumbags.
 
Let's say Judge Kavanaugh is successful in becoming a Supreme Court judge.

Then lets say that the sexual assault accusations don't just die away. In fact other women come forward with further accusations and start to establish a pattern. How would the legal system deal with such a situation?
 
basilio said:
Let's say Judge Kavanaugh is successful in becoming a Supreme Court judge.

Then lets say that the sexual assault accusations don't just die away. In fact other women come forward with further accusations and start to establish a pattern. How would the legal system deal with such a situation?
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Once he's in, he can't be removed as far as I know, so the legal system would just have to accept that.
 
basilio said:
Let's say Judge Kavanaugh is successful in becoming a Supreme Court judge.

Then lets say that the sexual assault accusations don't just die away. In fact other women come forward with further accusations and start to establish a pattern. How would the legal system deal with such a situation?
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Never heard of due process?
 

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