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Credit Suisse collapse rumours

Lots of speculation that the ECB is going to continue hiking 50bps as planned, despite the credit suisse collapse rumours.

If true, looks like the strategy will be to put out fires and continue to hike into a recession.

Meanwhile, ECB to the rescue as CS takes out a 50 billion franc loan

 
that Yahoo article belonged in the humor section OOSPS !! ( ASF doesn't seem to have a humor section )

maybe we should start a com. on which 'too big to fail ' bank will fail ( undergo a forced restructure )

early favourites must be CS and DB , because the ECB will stall on helping the Italian banks , although forced restructures in Spain must be considered as well
 
UBS Group is in discussions to take over all or part of Credit Suisse, the Financial Times reported, after an emergency funding lifeline failed to restore investor confidence in the smaller Swiss bank.

The boards of Switzerland’s two biggest lenders are set to meet separately over the weekend to discuss a deal, the FT said, citing multiple people briefed on the talks
 
ABC explores the proposed UBS takeover of Credit Suisse. If it doesn't get over the line stock markets are going to be very nervous this week.

 
I find the whole thing absolutely amazing. Swiss banks have been at the pinnacle of stability and conservatism ( as far as I know ), and the Swiss economy one of the strongest in the world.
A Swiss bank falling over !!!!!!!???????? Never !!!!
Very interesting times indeed.
Cheers
J
 
stability or was that immunity from international repercussions ??

actually the Swiss move to being more friendly to the EU and away from being 'strictly neutral ' ( and secret )

was probably the death blow and happened a while back ( not recently )

maybe we are watching the decline of Switzerland as well
 
A whole bank for 2 billion.
The Swiss bank UBS is paying 3 billion Swiss francs ($4.5 billion) for its rival in an all-share deal that includes extensive government guarantees and liquidity provisions.

The price is less than half the 7.4 billion francs Credit Suisse was worth at the close of trading on Friday.

The Swiss National Bank is offering a 100 billion-franc liquidity assistance to UBS while the government is granting a 9 billion-franc guarantee for potential losses from assets UBS is taking over. Regulator Finma said about 16 billion francs of Credit Suisse bonds will become worthless to ensure private investors help shoulder the costs.

.... - but will this end the crisis? Unhappy bondholders in there!
 
Someone has to lose.

CBers have now acknowledged that there's a liquidity crisis. They've increased the frequency of swaps as a result.
 

It won't hurt, much.

 
Swiss regulators must know something that the rest of us don't, because on Friday CSGN was trading at a market cap of 8 billion CHF for 40 billion CHF in tangible common equity and they seem to be forcing this deal through at 3 billion CHF after wiping out 16 billion in CSGN convertibles (instead of, you know, converting them down the capital stack)...complete evisceration.
 
To maintain confidence in the global banking system.

One of the most significant aspects is the decision by the Swiss regulator to totally wipe out the value of $US17 billion Credit Suisse’s Additional Tier I hybrid securities.

It is the first live application of the so-called too big to fail regime since the global financial crisis, as capital providers are being forced to contribute to a recapitalisation.

But the total loss for hybrid holders, who have fared even worse than lower ranking equity holders, could have widespread ramifications in already skittish fixed income markets.

(CS shareholders get one UBS share for every 22.48 shares they held)

In fact, one of the first questions in the hastily arranged conference call was whether UBS could be sued for treating Credit Suisse shareholders better than hybrid holders (to which the response was that this was entirely the call of regulators).
 
am not sure i should feel pleased with myself for not replacing my redeemed bank hybrids after 2016 ( or just relieved )

this will certainly cause some recalculations in investing strategies
 

And then UBS took a look and said hell no, not without govt. support
 
am still watching for contagion ( at other EU banks , both huge and medium )
 
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