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Corruption in Australia


Old Australian Saying
No prize for seconds mate.
 
How many Muslims have you known Epsilon?
I lived in a muslim fishing village for 2 years & THE PEOPLE WERE LOVELY they mixed in together with the buddhists, Chinese & us misc foreigners & I NEVER felt threatened. It is very sad to see that world politics has done to sth Thailand but blame the politicians not the people. really!

PS: 2020, I absolutely love your poems, esp the peace ones on the first page, where did they come from?
 

Yup

20/20 summed ot up nicely


But, we should also be pro-active in defending our own culture from extremists... of any bent
 
Out Too Soon said:
2020, ..poem... where did they come from?
Lol - thanks OTS - The one about "If I were God" is only an extract - The main theme is about the way the world is trending "healthwise" - and the fact that I wish people would spend more time thinking about the world they'll leave to the next generation than about whether they'll go to Heaven or not . I have posted it before, but I'll push my luck and stick it on the ASF Poetry thread - at the risk of being accused of verbal pollution
I use small print because I dont want to be seen to be grandstanding and filling up the memory bank here. - which I dont - at least I dont think I do (?) well all I know is that I feel strongly about a few things lol.
 
wayneL said:
But, we should also be pro-active in defending our own culture from extremists... of any bent
I agree Wayne - all extremists should be SHOT! (sorry another oldie lol - sorry if this is the 300th time you've heard it)
 

I totally disagree if you are implying that 100% of muslims have the attitude you describe above.

I don't know many muslims but I do know a couple of devout "true" muslims and they have and practice much higher morals and values than the "average westerner" so I think you are making a grossly incorrect generalization.

Obviously there is a small minority of bitter twisted people (who call themelves muslims) who use an extemely warped interpretation of Islam to try to further their own personal ideologies and agendas by inflicting extreme pain, suffering and fear.

How you stop them I do not know and at the very least it will take generations and not just years to remove the "built in" hatred and it's very obvious to me that the way the west is going about it at the moment is not even close to working.

I don't for a second think that the world now is safer and less vulnerable to terrorism than it was in March 2003.

My
 
Maybe I should come clean ...
I was lucky enough (I've had a fortunate life - accumulation of little things , fortunate to be where I was when I was etc ) to stay at International House for a time during my university years. Every evening meal we would stand , Africans (incl many Muslems), Asians (ditto) , Australians, Americans, Canadians, Kiwis, Europeans, ....and toast "THAT BROTHERHOOD MAY PREVAIL!" To give you an idea when that was, I recall the Liberal Minster Don Chipp being a guest speaker at one of our dinners - and he was TOTALLY against marijuana lol. We laughed at him (after his talk and therefore behind his back).

Speaking of marijuana - since those stupid days in the 60's, Ive met and studied with Afghans (muslems) - where the stuff has been smoked for centuries - who confirm that it is well known that people who smoke marijuana consistently lose (at least some of) their mental skills by middle age. Also a friend of one of my sons was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia triggered by marijuana (sad? nonsense! bludy tragic) - all my arguments with "fuddy duddy oldies" in those days defending it were also nonsense. Weed is not recommended! Sorry If you're a hash smoker Joe - but thats one of the lessons life has taught me at least .

As for corruption in Australia lol - well drugs are probably involved with at least 74.76% of it ( and 47.67% of all statistics are made up on the spot lol). Apologies, I have trouble keeing to the topic, Ill try to improve
 
To Much of it! and never enough 'should be band'
 

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2020hindsight said:
2. I'll tell you if I hear about Maj Mori's interview being repeated
3. Is Australia corrupt in its relationship with USA? Hard to tell really! Difficult to be corrupt when all you can say is "yes sir" "no sir" "three bags full sir"
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/transcripts/s1709428.htm

ABC has the interview with Maj Mori if anyone is interested. - I like the man - especially as he is putting his career on the line over this moral stance he is taking. Which compares with no stance at all from Aus Govt moral or otherwise - just the "sounds of silence" from them - while Hicks gets the "hello darkness my old friend" treatment. rgds , 2020.
 
Corruption in Australia nooo not here!
Where could someone get away with sadistically beating a man to death with witness's. HERE in Nth QLD of cause, Senior SGT Hurley has finally been stood down (on full pay ) but the sickening thing was the reaction of the politicians & the media up here, even Peter Beattie tried to gloss it over.
 
Lol OTS - imho, 25% at best of what police put up to court is true - believe me, I've seen it first hand - they are masters of twisting the truth - BLATANT lies - Beattie backing them ? - what a fool !! Clockwork Orange has nothing on Aussie cops !!

PS I like the show "Forensic Investigators" - currently on btw lol - and about a Qld crime - "so Horatio, you seem to have this little inconsistency in your philosophy" lol

PS What do you think of the resignation of the attorney gen over the Bundaberg medical fiasco? sheesh potentially BLATANT?? or what !!

PS Melbourne Sen Sgt found guilty - drugs related (of cors) and incidentally after my post below that suggested that drugs were the "root of all weevils" - ahh as if its an original hypothesis!! sheesh

PS the Diggers would have been ashamed of the corruption in the various police forces - imho of cors as if they gave their live for parasites like that to twist the truth ... "If you can bear to see the truth you've spoken, twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, or watch the things you gave your life to broken , and stoop to build 'em up with worn out tools" - Kipligs IF
 
Not all cops r crooked, vindictive &/or twisted, I knew the Sen Sgt of Palm Isl before Hurley & he was a good bloke that everyone respected inc the locals. The history of probs at Palm have been caused by poor political decisions of the past, a long story, DYOR.
When I blamed politicians for terrorism & the worlds woes earlier on this thread I thought after I should point out Osama Bin Laden is a politician, he doesn't even know how to shoot a gun properly.
How many wars would there be if the politicians that caused them had to be on the front line?
 

back to Mori - It's pretty easy yes? I mean, we are pathetic.
OTS, Palm Island - I accept that some police are ok (why not all?)
Politicians in the front line - well exclusing Winston Churchill lol - (who would have loved to be there) very few. He of course was one of the few to be able to claim "a legitimate call to arms". But I agree entirely OTS.

PS Winston C , 1939:- "What General Weygand called the Battle of France is over. I expect that the Battle of Britain is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of Christian civilization. Upon it depends our own British life, and the long continuity of our institutions and our Empire. The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us. Hitler knows that he will have to break us in this Island or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all Europe may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour."
- this speech given after Dunkirk, when Britain was almost on its knees - sheesh, the greatest orator and motivator of the 20C.
 
Good to see John White (ex Labor politician and wannabe ruler of the world) finally in trouble down here in Tassie. Seems to be in lots of trouble along with at least one of his associates (who just happened to be deputy premier until very recently...).

Perhaps he'll go the same way as builders struggling with his monopoly corporation's ridiculous licensing fees and all those who have struck trouble at the hands of the Battery Point residents association of which he is undemocratically elected as "the man". Christmas carols relocated, public space fenced in and Council proposals scrapped, the biggest nightclub in Hobart closed amidst a blaze of public outcry, even a coffee roasting business couldn't stand the heat from this mob.

Justice at last.
 

And finally it's happened, just before christmas when everybody is well & truly pre-occupied, out comes the sneaky Dept of Public PRosecutions verdict. Sgt Chris Hurley gets away with murder because they aren't going to even charge him. No surprise really, they couldn't possibly put the evidence before a jury without a very big embarrassing cover-up being blown sky high. If we cant get justice for Indigenous ppl while a moderate labour party is in power in QLD how can we hope to ever get real justice in QLD?
 

And just too add to the feeling of injustice & hopelessness in QLD Peter Beattie appears on the news telling everyone we have to accept the umpires decision.
The DPP totally contradicted the 2nd coroners findings, clearly there is no justice in QLD especially if you're black.

Clearly Australias hypocritical much bandied about idea of a "Fair Go", doesn't extend to black fellas, even in 2006.
 

Lol , m8 , as soon as heard that on tonights news, I though of your post.
sheesh. Now I wonder what we could charge him with ??? mmm. body over there, mmm in police station mmm .
no probs lets get back to that bastard David Hicks lol.
 
It makes me sick, really sick to the stomach, the only politicians to stick there neck out & make an honest comment have been The Greens & labour man Mike Reynolds. I guess MIke might be losing his preselection next time round. Whatever, he'll probably get in as an independant.
If that baby-faced sadist Hurley pulls you up for a traffic infringement on the Gold Coast, make a citizens arrest.
 
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2006/s1821892.htm Sir Laurence Street speaking to Conor Duffy.
 
Funny how it usually takes a media expose to shine a light on corruption in political parties.

Why didn't the ALP pick up on the activities of Eddie Obeid and Adem Someyurek ?

Because a lot of people were in their jobs because of these people.

Even though these were State matters its pretty sure that such things are going on at a Federal level in all parties.

Bring on a Federal ICAC. Will that actually happen ? Probably not because both the major parties know that they have secrets they want to keep hidden.
 
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