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Colorado, gun control and the 2nd Amendment

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McLovin said:
A friend of mine from Texas has a semi-automatic machine gun, is that really necessary for anyone outside of the military?
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this one quote from you shows how ignorant you are on the issue of firearms, as is nearly always the case with people who form the 'anti' agenda...

there is NO SUCH THING AS A SEMI AUTOMATIC MACHINE GUN!!! in fact even the term 'semi automatic' is not an accurate description of a style of firearm. your "friend from texas" either possess's a self loading firearm (one depression of the trigger causes the firing of one round of ammunition), or a machine gun (one depression causes the firearm to repeadedly discharge until the trigger is released)

pretty simple really but i guess your "revelation" caused other people ignorant of firearms to go 'tsk tsk isnt that terrible, what nutcase would need or want a semi-atomatic machinegun'....even though its complete bollocks! if you really want to comment on the issue educate yourself on it first and stop spreading emotive claptrap please, i posted a study by a professor Lott of chicago uni a few posts back that would be a great place to start your education re american gunlaws!

im not saying americans have got it totally right with their position, i am totally AGAINST military style self-loading or machineguns in the general population, they belong on the battlefield not the shooting range, that said their protection of the right of a law abiding citizen own a firearm is not a problem as it is the criminal element who are the problem.
 
McLovin said:
And I don't mean rednecks out in the sticks?
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again your ignorance and insulting stereo-typing bullsh*t taint the contributions you make on this thread, if your not careful you'll stoop to mr burns level of emotive vitriolic attacks devoid of any facts or intelligent contributions to the thread.
 

People who call others ignorant are more than likely the ignorant one as you have just demonstrated, as for intelligence I'm surprised you can even spell it.
 
MrBurns said:
Sorry but allowing everyone to own a gun is just plain stupid.
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allowing people to eat fast food seems stupid but guess what we dont live in some Orwellian nightmare, i have no interest in guns, but the right to own one should be available. Classic mindset of the left, i dont agree with something so NO-ONE should be able to do it.
 

The day I shoot someone with a hamburger because I've had a bad day I'll agree with you.
 
bandicoot76 said:
......"and in conclusion your honour i present exhibit B!"
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The reason guns aren't allowed into decent society is that they are acquired by fools, simpletons and immature weaklings who try to prove they have power, I present Exhibit A (above) I rest my case.

And it is because of this that you and your kind will have to be content owning dangerous dogs or whatever else you do in a vain attempt to compensate for your inadequacies.
 
white_goodman said:
haha, you are really out of your depth on this one, you should just stop
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You cant understand that ?

We have laws to stop people driving over a set speed, drinking over a certain amount and driving etc etc they'll all restriction of freedom arent they, so complain about those.
 

this type of vicious, immature, rediculous, offensive, childish, etc etc post is why you are a (bad) joke burnsy, it is impossible to discuss let alone debate this topic (gun ownership) with you because YOU degenerate it into a sh*t flinging match when someone with an opposing view tries to raise a point.

as soon as someone tries to challenge your (narrow-minded) viewpoint you ignore totally the point they were trying to make, go off on a tangent and launch into an ad hominem attack like some frenzied monkey with ADHD.

the so called "facts" you throw around (psychos dont buy guns from the black market???? REALLY!,criminals dont use guns on citizens only other criminals etc etc) are complete rubbish and try as i might i havnt found ONE post of yours that doesnt involve a vitriolic attack on the individual poster rather than a rational response to the point that was put forward by them...

i have given up trying to take you seriously to engage in serious discussion of this topic and now regard you as an irritation not worthy of the effort to refute your mud-slinging monkey tactics...
 

Sorry if I struck a raw nerve there , I only hit out when I'm insulted so you can cease and desist.

I must admit I have little respect for the gun lobby, the facts are in the evidence is there but they just keep rabbiting on like the ignorant red necks they are, easy targets really, excuse the pun.
 
MrBurns said:
must admit I have little respect for the gun lobby, the facts are in the evidence is there but they just keep rabbiting on like the ignorant red necks they are.
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again with the insults! you wouldnt know the 'gun lobby' if you fell over it....

you have a pre concieved discriminatory stereotype that you label anyone who disagrees with you redneck, looney, gunnut, yahoo and all the other derogatory insults youve dreamed up to ridicule the BIG BAD GUN LOBBY, who in reality are just ordinary people (both men and women) who enjoy the shooting sports... watch the clay target shooters at the olympics, they are your scary gun lobby, the people at your local rifle/pistol/target range... they are your horrible horrible rednecks, the people who like to go bush for the weekend and shoot a few bunnies for the pot etc etc etc...

these are the people YOU are insulting by your snide posts, not the outlaw bikers or neighborhood crims who deserve your wrath for using guns for criminal purposes! that is why i totally disrespect you for your generalised lumping together of all firearm owners under the redneck gunlobby loonies banner!

i bet you would protest and chuck a hissy fit if i called you an urban soy-decaf latte drinking, half-bi, hippy greenie p**f wouldnt you, as it is insulting untruthful vitriol !!! so why do you think you can do the same and not be considered a total hypcrite!
 
Stick to the topic of gun control, less on the rednecks....

We had a decent little debate going that was sprinkled with a few facts here and there. Let's try and get back on that path before it ends in deleted posts and infractions for insults.

Thanks in advance.


CanOz
 
white_goodman said:
Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither
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Quite right. And I refuse to sacrifice my freedom not to be shot at. There is no legitimate reason to own a gun in the city. None. If you want to belong to a gun club, fine. Keep your weapons in that club. At all times. The ONLY purpose of a weapon in the city is to commit harm to some one or some thing. Pretending that you have a "right" to own and use things which are dangerous to others and 100% useless for any worthwhile task is madness.
 
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