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wayneL said:
By itself - meaningless and not distressing at all.

I find the giant pacific garbage dump distressing.
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Hardly meaningless. It was A TED talk. I think he would have assumed his audience had the brains to connect the bigger picture. You have a rapid expansion in ice loss since the Little Ice Age ended which is far in excess of the retreat you see during a typical Earth warming phase.
In fact, everything but the data coming from our ice shelfs seems meaningless.
 
$20shoes said:
Hardly meaningless. It was A TED talk. I think he would have assumed his audience had the brains to connect the bigger picture. You have a rapid expansion in ice loss since the Little Ice Age ended which is far in excess of the retreat you see during a typical Earth warming phase.
In fact, everything but the data coming from our ice shelfs seems meaningless.
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Better stop driving your car, heating your home and consuming industrially produced food then. :2twocents
 
Never damn it!! Ice-Melt Schmice melt. Just try and let it interfere with my comfortable life Wayne ;)

And yes that big rubbish tip in the middle of the Pacific is some nasty stuff. Enjoy your weekend guys!! The ice can wait...
 
My new lady Dharma who is a marine biologist has told be about a German ship going through the Arctic, the Northeast passage with an icebreaker ahead of it.

She's a rabid Green but her scintillating personality and personal fitnes and beauty nullifies that.

So the poles may be melting a bit.

I'll have to look at all the evidence again when I stop looking at Dharma.

She wants me to sell the Arnage and buy a Prius.

gg
 
wayneL said:
Buy a Hummer. Less damage to the planet overall. ;)

Prius manufacture is environmental vandalism.
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Or just get a small, efficient diesel and you'll emit far less CO2 than either of those other options. Cheaper too and the modern ones drive a lot better than you probably think.
 
It seems that this whole debate about Weather has been hijacked by the politicians, economists, arbitragers and no-hopers intent on putting another tax on us all.

OK the Samoans have had a tsunami, they've been having them for bloody centuries.

Likewise the Phillipines with their storms.

The most devestating cyclone to rip through Australia occurred in Darwin in 1975.

I still fail to see any evidence of global warming.

Its a balmy warm evening here in Townsville, no different than many in the past, this time of year.

I will fight any government that puts taxes on me on computer projections.

gg
 
MrBurns said:
That was no cyclone. that was the unfortunate co incidence of simultaneous paydays on 3 separate sheep stations in the area.
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With respect mate, it was horrible, I know a bloke who saw his best mate decapitated by a piece of flying sheet metal. He was so traumatised he built himself a house in to a hill facing south.

Visit the Darwin museum, it was quite frightening.

gg

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
It seems that this whole debate about Weather has been hijacked by the politicians, economists, arbitragers and no-hopers intent on putting another tax on us all.

OK the Samoans have had a tsunami, they've been having them for bloody centuries.

Likewise the Phillipines with their storms.

The most devestating cyclone to rip through Australia occurred in Darwin in 1975.

I still fail to see any evidence of global warming.

Its a balmy warm evening here in Townsville, no different than many in the past, this time of year.

I will fight any government that puts taxes on me on computer projections.

gg
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I'm with you GG. It's a lot of woop woop belong bulla ma cow as they say in PNG.
Came out of the Civic theatre last night to be confronted with a down pore of rain. Dry as a bone in Mount Louisa, but the frogs are croaking here so we might get our share tonight. As you say, no different to many in the past.

But GG they don't talk much about Global Warming any more ,so you have to think Climate Change; you know all that nasty CO2 emissions which are cooling the globe!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL.
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
With respect mate, it was horrible, I know a bloke who saw his best mate decapitated by a piece of flying sheet metal. He was so traumatised he built himself a house in to a hill facing south.

Visit the Darwin museum, it was quite frightening.

gg

gg
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Didnt mean to be disrespectful, I thought most wounds would have healed by now.
 
MrBurns said:
Didnt mean to be disrespectful, I thought most wounds would have healed by now.
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No mate, I knew you weren't being disrespectful, but it was a ptsd scenario, and many who went through it moved down the coast to Cairns, Townsville and Mackay, as they were very traumatised by it.

No offence taken.

gg
 
There is apparently some very scary clauses in the CC treaty they all intend signing in Copenhagen in December.

Here is a video of Monckton's comments as per the other thread.

 
wayneL said:
There is apparently some very scary clauses in the CC treaty they all intend signing in Copenhagen in December.

Here is a video of Monckton's comments as per the other thread.

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Thanks wayneL

Quite a scary prospect.

gg
 
Well I dont' know about all the science or all the crap, only what I have experienced.

I grew up on a farm in the Western Distict of Victoria, fourth generation on the land. In my teens I learnt that the average rainfall across Victoria was 25 inches, in some southern parts, routinely 40 inches, in the Otway Ranges much higher than that. And it was every year, (the family goes back on the land here to 1850)cattle down to thier stomachs in mud from July to October, sometimes to November.

This stopped with the drought of 1969, the year my Father died. It has never reached these rainfall levels across the whole state since and the frogs that appeared every winter do not appear now back at the old farm.

Go figure.
 
I did post this on another topic..but it is probably more relevant here; might be a repost.


Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) 2007; with a 90% or greater probability, human actions are the cause of climate change.

- caused by natural climatic processes alone is less than 5%.

1000+ researchers/scientists/experts... 100+ countries.
-all reviewed/peer reviewed.
 
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