Nicks said:What's wrong with Soy Milkman? I drink Soy Milk, it tastes So Good on my cereal and So Good as a drink.
Nicks said:Smokers are all suckers to tobacco companies. If you cal let someone convince you to pay money to injest something that is disgusting and dangerous to you health, then you are just simply an idiot.
Bloveld said:Naaah you havent attacked anyone. Noboby minds being called an idiot or a sucker.
But there was a time that scientists argued over the danger of tobacco much like soy now.
I consider soy milk to be disgusting. And having looked at the pros an cons, I think its dangerous to my health.
How many years was margarine promoted as a health food. I read a book over 20 years ago that said never eat margarine. So infromation about its risks has been around for a long time.
The same book said never use sunscreen. And now we are seeing skin cancer caused by sunscreen use
bunyip said:Most of the smokers I know are happy to admit they're idiots for smoking, and that taking up the habit in the first place was an idiotic thing to do.
I don't think they'd disagree with me for a second if I told them they're suckers to the cigarette companies.
They know it's destroying their fitness and health, they bemoan how much money it's costing them, they admit it's inconsiderate to others.
Yet they continue doing it, and most of them haven't even looked into the various quit programs that could help them kick the habit.
Bunyip
Smurf, Man you are without doubt and by a country mile the most informed and thorough person on this sort of topic that the western world has seen in 20 yearsSmurf1976 said:Agreed that smoking isn't good ...
Hydrogenated vegetable oil ...
What about diesel exhaust ...
What about refined white sugar?
What about alcohol?
I've personally witnessed more harm done by this stuff than all other drugs,
Why don't we have pictures of smashed cars with dead bodies on beer cans? Or bashed wives and children?
What about solariums?
What about loud music?
What about cars?
What about deodorant sprays?
What about illegal drugs?
What about all those cars with asbestos brakes?
Bottom line is there's lots of nasty things that are either known to be bad for your health or which commonsense would suggest aren't good that most of us are either doing ourselves or are exposed to. And most of them aren't necessary since healthier alternatives are readily available. Smoking is just another one - if people want to do it then it's their business IMO.
drinking while pregnant, is child abuse ..
... "The introduction of Tobacco to Civilization," wherein a telephone call from Sir Walter Raleigh prompts skeptical laughter in England:2020hindsight said:Smurf, ...The only way I can respond is to remember that comedian (I thought he was called Bob Newhart !!!(remembered at last ) who did that skit about Sir Walter Raleigh
I think we all know why mate - there's a monkey on their back, poor bugas. I agree with you entirely there. I also agree with trying to keep kids away from it with age limits - (maybe stop 5% of them starting).coyotte said:Instead of attacking smokers , if non-smokers took the time out to understand why ? . ....For a start -- call a truce ! Over a seven year period , increase the legal age to 25 ...Over the same period , gradually decrease the legal nicotine level allowed in tobacco products -- initally most would smoke more , but over a period of time would revert back to their lower levels...Reduce the amount of cigs in a pack back to 10 --- smokers tend to smoke a pack a day --- years ago 10 was the standard pack
.. This measures taken as a group would help make far eaiser for a smoker to quit ..Most smokers are crying out for HELP , but in return all they get is attacked. Just my thoughts. Cheers
Bloveld said:Naaah you havent attacked anyone. Noboby minds being called an idiot or a sucker.
But there was a time that scientists argued over the danger of tobacco much like soy now.
I consider soy milk to be disgusting. And having looked at the pros an cons, I think its dangerous to my health.
How many years was margarine promoted as a health food. I read a book over 20 years ago that said never eat margarine. So infromation about its risks has been around for a long time.
The same book said never use sunscreen. And now we are seeing skin cancer caused by sunscreen use
Milkman - sorry mate I just realised I'm being presumptive in assuming you're not already doing the city2surf2020hindsight said:Milkman - see you in the City to Surf next year- there's a dare - you'll enjoy it.
rocket_science said:hello everyone
if smokers want to exercise their right to smoke then that's fine as it's their choice but I then exercise my right to tell them where they can and can't smokeI don't allow smoking in my home or in my car for starters. Passive smoke is a proven health hazard.
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