Why you think a nation that was unsuccessful in the Korean War, Vietnam War and in Afghanistan - just to name a few - would fare better against China beggars belief. US military commanders have a pathetic track record and their field troops are only ever successful when they can bring greater fire power to a situation.
You even promoted the idea that America has more fleet tonnage than China so is superior. Really!
And this from you; "They also have zero aircraft carriers...." Is also at odds with reality:
Here's your weakest case:
Yes you do. It's called "provocation".
That US fleet could have been blown out of the water in no time by China but for some reason you think you know better.
Can you claim to have visited every army, navy, and air force base in your State to write official Defence Department Reports? I can!
So stump up with substance rather than make believe.
It's true that China is many years behind in microchip fabrication technology and America has used its bullying tactics to keep it that way. If you are as clever as you think you are, then you can tell us what that last sentence of mine was about. Because that's the issue that very few people get to hear about, and shows the USA to be nothing more than international thugs.
Don't kid yourself about Chinese military strength. They are an absolute joke. China's warships are a disgrace. Even the Japanese still have better warships than China. It's one thing to have a lot of something as China does, but when it's old, poor quality and in a state of disrepair, all that means in conflict is that there will end up being more artificial reefs off the coast of China.
Referencing the Korean, Vietnam and war in Afghanistan is incorrect. All of those conflicts were proxy wars which by design are never meant to have a winner.
Last I heard China had 1 super carrier and the USA had around 20. China is miles off the pace of the USA in terms of budget and tech.
The Chinese just have an infinite ability to build something that will always break well before the tech of the opposing forces.
I would still fancy Japan to dust China in any conflict if the USA was willing to stand back and let them go to town on China.
100%
To add to that, the carrier that china does possess is actually a carrier Ukraine was selling off as scrap in the 90s. China did a sneaky as they usually do and a private company bough it with a plan to make it a "floating casino" ... years later it ends up in pla hands as a refurb, and we all know how chinese refurbs are...
At the first sign of action it most likely will sink itself.
One man's trash is another man's treasure is stretched a bit too far when even the soviets said its junk
Please provide evidence for your claims. China has one of the most advanced aircraft carriers in the world, and most of its fleet is more modern than Americas.Don't kid yourself about Chinese military strength. They are an absolute joke. China's warships are a disgrace. Even the Japanese still have better warships than China. It's one thing to have a lot of something as China does, but when it's old, poor quality and in a state of disrepair, all that means in conflict is that there will end up being more artificial reefs off the coast of China.
Aside from the fact US military leaders failed to bring about victories, what makes Taiwan different to your so called "proxy wars"?Referencing the Korean, Vietnam and war in Afghanistan is incorrect. All of those conflicts were proxy wars which by design are never meant to have a winner.
Perhaps you should watch the link I posted as it seems Team USA has no idea about China.100%
To add to that, the carrier that china does possess is actually a carrier Ukraine was selling off as scrap in the 90s. China did a sneaky as they usually do and a private company bough it with a plan to make it a "floating casino" ... years later it ends up in pla hands as a refurb, and we all know how chinese refurbs are...
At the first sign of action it most likely will sink itself.
One man's trash is another man's treasure is stretched a bit too far when even the soviets said its junk
This is 2021. You are welcome to live in the past. But posting nonsense is not an argument.Has China ever fought a war where it didn't end up weaker after the conflict? Most notably against Japan they usually end up getting dragged around by the scruff of their necks and thrown in the corner.
The Chinese have the ability to be brutal within their own borders to their own, but they really do not know how to do war.
They want to be sneaky but you can't be sneaky in war unless you have another equally sneaky power to go along with you and the Chinese can just never find anybody that wants to trust....cough splutter... them.
Please provide evidence for your claims. China has one of the most advanced aircraft carriers in the world, and most of its fleet is more modern than Americas.
That's aside from the fact that your ilk cannot understand that China does not have to go anywhere to defeat any allies of Taiwan!
Do you have a clue about what wars entail?
Aside from the fact US military leaders failed to bring about victories, what makes Taiwan different to your so called "proxy wars"?
Perhaps you should watch the link I posted as it seems Team USA has no idea about China.
Please offer a decent argument to reply to.You need to edit your 2nd sentence. IT should read "China has ONE supercarrier in the world. It finishes right there. You can edit out the words MOST and FLEET.
Referencing Taiwan, how is China going with that? LOL
Perhaps you should watch the link I posted as it seems Team USA has no idea about China.
This is 2021. You are welcome to live in the past. But posting nonsense is not an argument.
Please re-read my post - I am happy to respond to sensible content.China presents no strategic difficulty for any opposing force.... as Japan has proven on numerous occasions.
Any sort of conflict involving China would see an opposing force, probably Japan putting its feet up and smoking cigars in Beijing inside a week.
You are welcome to live in a bubble. But posting nonsense doesn't win wars. Just ask the Chinese.
well that took even less time
Please re-read my post - I am happy to respond to sensible content.
Opinions on what will happen to stocks and bonds (and global markets) if China were to Invade Taiwan please folks.
This thread is about financial markets, not military might.
Unfortunately there are some posters here who have no idea about China.Or you could check out the war gaming results of US/China conflict the US Generals had to ponder last year. Wasn't good news
Also a small gunboat with a decent anti ship missile system system can cripple a carrier.
A small fleet of such boats would make this outcome inevitable. Which takes us back to the war gaming outcome.
Perhaps you should watch the link I posted as it seems Team USA has no idea about China.
This is 2021. You are welcome to live in the past. But posting nonsense is not an argument.
Unfortunately there are some posters here who have no idea about China.
Maybe this helps on the subject of conflict.
Unfortunately there are some posters here who have no idea about China.
Maybe this helps on the subject of conflict.
You have no idea what goes into planning for war whereas I wrote official Reports on support capability. It is you who is out of his depth here.I think the yank admirals etc know more about their own business/hardware than some random on the internet does. Desert storm should really tell everyone just what the americans are capable of in a traditional military vs military conflict.
The armchair experts of the world never cease to amaze me.
Again, the question here is not whether the yanks could stop an invasion of taiwan, it's whether they care to. I explained the rapidly deteriorating question of stability in asia in a previous post.
Once the new chip factories are built, america is well & truly gone.
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