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China Internal Disturbance Risk

Garpal Gumnut

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Many commentators seem to view China as a homogenous hegemony when in fact it is subject to the same civil disruptions as all powerful empires and civilisations in the past.

It's peoples seem to be displaying "Melbourne-type" reactions to the anti-Covid measures in place atm. within it's borders. All empires have their day, particularly those with overly unctuous internal controls dripping from the top, much as the former USSR had, and the present Russia barely holds, over their far flung provinces.

A period of civil disorder may have two effects, one to hasten external conflict against Taiwan or secondly the top Chinese oligarchs of the CPC trying to continue the internal control of the CPC on the minions.

It is thus extremely difficult to assess the effects commercially for Australia and in particular the products of our quarry on which the XAO depends. It looks as if cattle and grain are in line for Chinese sanctions even without internal civil disturbance. The Chinese efforts seem to me to be over the top attempts to contain a coronavirus. Rather like trying to overtake a single axle Victorian plated caravan on a one bitumen lane bush track without damaging the paint on the Arnage or watching the visitors end a**e up in the scrub.

I do hope our major ASX listed companies have a plan B for when China either becomes more externally aggressive or descends in to internal disorder. It is very difficult to stop a billion people from catching a cold. I doubt if they will succeed. The constituent companies of the XAO need to be prepared.

gg
 
A very pertinent observation GG as usual, I may add, as I will passing by the resort soon and may need you to sign me in as a guest.

But as you say, the lockdowns, the sanctions and the Taiwan issue will be polarising in China, I'm sure they are not immune to outside news.
So they themselves would be asking, if the outside world is just learning to live with it and we in China aren't, why not?
That would then lead to the assumption that they either couldn't cope with an outbreak, as it would stretch their resources too much, or there is something to the theory that it is indeed manufactured.
Either way, it wouldn't be good for the Chinese Government.
So as you say, any outbreak of hostilities, could in fact backfire if the general public aren't committed to the cause.
 
Having lived in China for around 1.4% of my lifetime, and Aus for 98.6% for the rest, the risk is minimal, IMHO.
Anyone over 45 years old who was in Beijing for Tiananmen Square massacre still remember things like bodies being bulldozed into piles for collection.

Internet censorship, social credit system, well established public and secret and government heirarchy channels and the COVID fear machine tied in with the subservient inherent nature of the people's, all have me "not greatly worried" about internal disturbance risk.
Anything that starts up is quashed quickly and swept under a rug, and then cleaned up asap under threat and duress.
Let's not kid ourselves.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-42465516
 
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China is not in a good place at the moment, its leaders may be looking at changing their bullying ways.


 
a rapidly slowing economy ... and one of the few countries (Japan being the other) not in the current super- aggressive (some say co-ordinated) tightening in global monetary policy
 
The Formosa section of the China desk here at the hotel has been on Flight Radar 24 all night.

No flights overflying China.

Rumours of my previous concerns re young Xi are rife.

Reports are that Qu Jum Ping has already taken over at the top of the CCP.

gg
 
That would be good news.
 
But wouldn't a reset be a good thing? And breaking the constitution so Xi could effectively be a dictator would not be.
but history shows there is a bigger chance of a worse dictator replacing the previous one ( plenty of examples of that )

remember how they replaced that 'evil Trump ' how is that working

wait until you get an unelected EU-centric world government that will even micro-manage your food intake
 
I must admit that I feel most sorry for people like me.

gg

It's all just a big fat old rumour, confirmed by my source's.

Next.
 
Was it an inscrutable historical eminence or just an ABC reporter that stated:
"When the centre is strong, the provinces are strong (quiescent),
When the centre is weak, the provinces are weak (fractious).?
CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY OF INDIA - VOLUME VII Tuesday, the 9th November, 1948 The Constituent Assembly of India met in the Constitution Hall, New Delhi, at Ten of the Clock, Mr. Vice-President (Dr. H. C. Mookherjee) in the Chair.

Shri R. Sankar (Travancore) speaking at the Constituent Assembly Debates On 9 November, 1948.

"With regard to other matters, we must borrow a lesson from the Australian and Canadian Constitutions where the provinces and Centre have evolved a sort of relationship which is still the bone of contention in their law courts.The recent instance in Australia where Nationalisation of Banking was attempted is an example: the Centre wanted to nationalise the banks but the provinces resisted. So also in our future development, the relationship between the provinces and the Centre has to be evolved in the best interests of the country. We require no doubt a strong Centre, but a strong Centre should not mean weak provinces.The provinces also should be equally strong to enable them to perform their multifarious duties and to develop schemes.They should be left with sufficient financial resources to discharge their duties and contribute to the strength of the Centre."
?
 
Xi Jinping and the party have aspirations of recreating a world order in the format of the China communist political system. They see that the time is near, the Western system weakened by too much freedom causing disunity.

 
Hu dragged out
Former President before Xi.

I hope it signals to everyone the complete and utter total control the upper echelons of the CCP have over the whole country.

Stay well away from even getting close to toeing the line and continuously kowtow, or you get disappeared in a blink of an eye.

For the sake of friends and family and colleagues, Hu will be telling them "he didn't feel well" and "asked them to accompany him out". I won't be surprised to hear he passed away within 6 month's from now
 
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