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China a Failed State and a Rogue State to the rest of the World

Whenever I worry about this I remind myself that we have the finest and most stalwart leader ever in Anthony - "my word is my bond" -Albanese, whom the media organs of the CCP have perceptively dubbed 'handsome boy'. And not forgetting that other Aussie Penny Wong. So let's all take a chill pill - we have our very own home grown Donald.

 
My favourite takeaway Chinese meals are Sweet and Sour Pork and Char Siu ( BBQ Pork ), both preferably served with Egg Fried Rice although if that is unavailable I have plain rice with the former and noodles with the latter.

I should add that Spring Rolls are a good starter for both.

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I distinctly remember Lemon Chicken as a favourite growing up but haven't had it in 40 years. I vaguely remember a fried banana as well.
 

There's a lot of propaganda talking points to but to highlight a few:
- The idea of bringing up all these imaginary nonsense narratives like 100,000 of Uyghurs are being brutalized is the common propaganda tool of inventing lies so people start to talk about it and make fantasy a reality

- Falun Gong is a Scientology-like cult. Keep believing they have their organs harvested en masse without any statistical evidence

- There are some Chinese fishing fleets off the coast of the Philippines (especially in contested territory). And so what? Is that supposed to be a bombshell or something. There are conflicts like this between all nations everywhere.

FYI i think if you measure the murders committed by the few Uyghurs being targeted. Versus how many of them have been murdered, i have a STRONG suspicion it's something crazy like a 10:1 ratio.

All these attempts to balkanize an economic threat that is not willing to "kowtow" to US economic interests like Facebook did trying to make their product available there is too obvious and the lies fall through unfortunately.






It's sad that when we talk about these topics it's almost like we have to talk like we're located in India rather than Australia. This is how much this country has been taken for a ride by the country with the largest number of r*pes, ultra-nationalistic propaganda and abject filthy sanitary conditions... and they're all bringing them here.

Let's sell our souls more to India please. It's bipartisan. Even more IT support, horrible customer service, ghettos and propaganda from one of 100s of Indian "news" outlets that will do whatever they can to push them to be world #1
 
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Not one statistical evidence just rhetoric that they are evil Nazis I'm guessing this poster is Indian (by username). What can be said can be applied to India with much more accuracy and with more statistical proof.

China isn't a perfect country by any means. It's not a country with "Good" human rights. It's about average though on a global scale, which is proportional to their economic development per capita.

India on the other hand is objectively terrible. A "Nazi" Hindu supremacist country that is intent on spreading their influence and wings in every corner of the world to push fairytales and agendas and to try and balkanize their adversaries. Whose Indian immigrants here in Australia will endless defend and praise India while essentially not giving a crap about this country and using .it as a stepping stone for Making India Great (... for once).

Look at the statistics for rapes per capita in India (and how much it is underreported). With evidence of Sexual Assaults CAPTURED ON YOUTUBE. Proof of their filthy living conditions and racism... CAPTURED ON YOTUBE. Harassment of people of different races and religions... CAPTURED ON YOUTUBE. Endless scams... CAPTURED ON YOUTUBE.

Why don't all the tourists including Aussies in China capture evidence for the barbaric acts which are claimed and post it on youtube?

Indian clowns like this guy trying to push through ChatGPT levels of fairytale to try and make "their competitor" (who don't actually really see India as a competitor) as negatively a possible.

He blabbed about organ harvesting. India has more organ harvesting than China lol. It was also actually LEGAL IN INDIA TO TRADE ORGANS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_trade

Go on, respond and get dozens of likes from the other Indian shills and bots on this board One wonders the nationality of all of these internet trolls Where are all the Chinese bots and spies liking my post and other contrarian posts that at least attempts to use logic and facts? Are they on vacation Another Indian fairytale debunked.

Also, free Khalistan It's an independent nation that is currently being oppressed and seized by India.
 
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Wow.

I am not Indian, have no Indian ancestry etc, but your anti Indian rant is as insane as it is irrelevant. I have visited India, travelled around it by train and road tripping in private vehicles, know at least as much about it as I do China, could respond, but given how irrelevant it is I'm not going to bother.

China does utterly hate India though and is in the process of stealing land from India, so as a CCP shill it's not surprising you would be keen to attack them.

You have shown your hand in your India rant, so it's now clear where you're coming from. Clearly your brainwashing is not going to be possible to cure, but the majority of Australians do now understand that China has absolutely hideous human rights issues, and to say it's on par with the global norm is just an outright lie.

To try to pretend that India is trying to take over the world as a bizarre defense of China is honestly just stupid. China is taking over Africa, illegally claiming territory in Asia, bribing and corrupting politicians all over the world, manipulating markets blatantly, teaching school children that Han Chinese are a superior race, telling school children that the West is its enemy, etc etc etc. India doesn't do any of this, India hasn't pulled a 'Hong Kong' anywhere, India isn't trying to take over a country as China is with Taiwan, I could go on and on. I have no horse in the race or reason to be biased, I'm not going to defend India and it is indeed a highly dysfunctional and problematic country, but China is outright evil a threat to the world. India's problems are more internal - much more an issue of mismanagement which prevents it from being as successful as it otherwise might, as opposed to active evil which harms and threatens the rest of the world as well as actively, knowingly harming its own people as is the case with China.

I am not Indian, but you are Chinese. I don't hold that against you, I have huge admiration for Chinese people who oppose their government (huge respect to those riding bicycles to buy dumplings last year! I was in a country neighbouring China at the time and was inspired to ride bicycles to dumpling shops myself, silly as that may be!), but scum who support such evil are below dirt.

The mandate of Heaven seems to be in the process of being given with all the floods in China in recent years, which doesn't pair well with China's tofu dreg construction.

Do we need to mention that whole Wuhan thing from 2019?

By the way, why are you guys so desperate to snort rhino horn and gobble down dried tiger penis? You know doesn't work, right? Are you that impotent you're desperate enough to wipe out the worlds endangered animals in hope that just maybe it might help, even if just a little bit?
 
Indian propaganda at it's best. Yelling lies (or at best... exaggerations) and hoping other more capable people are able to do their dirty work to make India Great.

You make such grand accusations of anyone with contrarian views as Nazis - let's see how you're like in real life. Let's see if you talk the big talk and treat these "Nazis" as you claim the way Nazis are treated in history. You can try.

Let's put India in the spotlight:
- Have no principles morally on the world stage. They will wh*re themselves to any country that will take them in or give them resources. As seen with the US. As seen with Russia. And their little man Modi flying everywhere to talk about the greatness of India and how every country should open their borders to Indian immigration. I thought India was such a great country why ever leave??
- Trying to spread their influence and agenda in every corner of the world. One of the most ultra-nationalistic people who do not assimilate and will not waive their loyalty to India in Australia.
- Have one of the biggest propaganda and disinformation media networks
- R*pe capital in the world
- Even the high-caste Brahmin treated as royalty don't want to ever return. And are indeed almost 100% of the immigration.
- Discriminatory, humiliating caste system.
- Absolutely 0 women's rights. Women cannot go out at night alone without being r*ped.
- Average IQ 85
- Currently weakest physically according to global martial arts competitions and the Olympics. 0/0/0 medals in Olympic games despite having 1.4 billion people
- Intolerance to Muslims and other religions
- Highly racist towards non-Indians in and out of their own country. Well documented on youtube.
- Theft, scams are so commonplace higher than all other countries. Also shows how much they despise other nations since they usually scam elderly vulnerable Australian grandmas and the such
- Widely regarded as giving no value to the world, not even cheap labor since it is often of poor quality and service.

Allying with India over China is a huge mistake. Treating them as anything other than the biggest threat in this global chess game is a huge mistake. They must be isolated from the rest of the world. If they're so great they can make India great from within and leave the rest of the world alone.
 
hi, Mr gg; any favourite Indian dishes?

Chicken korma?
 
Look, all we're trying to do here is have a finely balanced discussion about the 'Peoples Republic' whilst admittedly drawing attention to a few of its flaws.
The nick of 'joeno' intrigued me though, since getting these CCP propaganda files dumped on us. Firstly, the obvious regarding the name: doesn't 'joeno' remind you of the word 'China'? Two syllables. Beginning with a consonant, ending with a vowel. The last bit, 'no' also fits well with what we know of China: no, Taiwan is not a State, no, we dont harvest live organs from political prisoners, no, we don't lie about our bio-warfare labs ... Anyway, say it a few times: "joeno, China, joeno, China" - see what I mean? It could also be a play on the nick of our esteemed administrator, 'Joe Blow'. The words Joe Blow and joeno are 'homophones' - the Chinese CCP are great copyists but are also very impolite. Anyway I have assigned a small team with a remit to further unravel this quite sinister code.
 
i find it intriguing we decry certain policies in China but embrace and enforce them here ( in Australia ) , but of course we always use the very best of logic to apply those policies ( sarcasm )
 
hi, Mr gg; any favourite Indian dishes?

Chicken korma?
It has been my good fortune to travel extensively in Northern India from Delhi up to the Tibetan cousins who fled across the border and west to Kashmir where the Shiite cousins are unhappy with the gods of the Hindu cousins. Although I'd highly recommend the trip, I will not go in to the politics of the regions lest I aggravate the propriety and sobriety of posts previous. It has been my experience that in eating out one finds the best meals in the cheapest of dives and carts. I am blessed with a cast iron stomach and never vary from the 1+1 toilet routine while in India. So a good repas found in most villages and towns is Buttered Chicken, Chole Bhature with condiments, and rounded off with Kulfi, a delicious ice cream.

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The larger discussion should be about "allies" actually doing anything. I think we are making a mistake thinking Americans are going to die protecting us. We need a bunch of nukes up the top end and then take a friendly position with everyone
The US will protect the land of the OZ not because they love us skippy's but because they would never want all the minerals and farmland to end up in the Chinese hands during a war against them. As for the economy if people think Trump cares about us there, they need to reconsider their position, if he's pi$$ing in the faces of Canada and Mexico imagine what he wants to do with us.
 
What about if Indonesia is moving in, guaranteeing US access to minerals, and explaining how their starving population needs the extra land...what will USA 2035 do?
Get nukes, and then start to talk..i agree, in the meantime, stay hidden and quiet
 
The larger discussion should be about "allies" actually doing anything. I think we are making a mistake thinking Americans are going to die protecting us. We need a bunch of nukes up the top end and then take a friendly position with everyone

Check how many Americans died in the Solomons, Coral Sea, PNG, etc. Much, much closer to Australia than the US. Australia didn't go down the nuclear path after WW2 because the US put us under their nuclear umbrella. Our strategic location is obviously of great benefit to the US in protecting their Pacific interests, and that includes us.
 
The world is changing quickly...
 
What about if Indonesia is moving in, guaranteeing US access to minerals, and explaining how their starving population needs the extra land...what will USA 2035 do?
Get nukes, and then start to talk..i agree, in the meantime, stay hidden and quiet
NOPE , that won't happen Indonesia accepted a membership of BRICS and only recently as well

Indonesia will increase exports/imports with BRICS members ( and the rest of ASEAN as well )

since India is already a BRICS member and with a massive population maybe India ( which nukes already ) will be the major threat in ten years time
 
That was a different time. The world has changed and is being carved up by the new powers forming. China is working its way down using soft power. There's a bigger deterrent having our own nukes than the US saying they are going to look after us.

They told Ukraine the same thing when Ukraine had a bunch of nukes left from the USSR. I question if the west has the intestinal fortitude to let their citizens die in a war. The demographics are just not in our favour. So much that losing large swathes of young men may be the end of countries ability to economically sustain themselves.
 
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